[Strictly Jake]

Thinking of score wise and who will progress to the final

Hamza will safely be through which I'm happy about I really like him. And I'd love to see his Ecuador salsa and the afro beats performances again


Molly thankfully did enough tonight to secure a place in the final. In the dance off they dance their higher scoring dance she does the paso noone can beat her apart from Hamza score wise and he won't be in the dance off
So she is through

That leaves Fleur, Helen and Will all in danger. Fleur will make the final if she is against will or Helen. If she is against Molly or Hamza she is gone.

If will is against Fleur, Molly or Hamza he is gone. If he is against Helen then Helen is gone.

Helen won't survive either way if she lands in the dance off. Her higher scoring dance was the Argentine tango. Everyone scored higher than her on their higher scoring dances.

Biggest chance of who leaves. Helen

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Thinking of score wise and who will progress to the final

Hamza will safely be through which I'm happy about I really like him. And I'd love to see his Ecuador salsa and the afro beats performances again


Molly thankfully did enough tonight to secure a place in the final. In the dance off they dance their higher scoring dance she does the paso noone can beat her apart from Hamza score wise and he won't be in the dance off
So she is through

That leaves Fleur, Helen and Will all in danger. Fleur will make the final if she is against will or Helen. If she is against Molly or Hamza she is gone.

If will is against Fleur, Molly or Hamza he is gone. If he is against Helen then Helen is gone.

Helen won't survive either way if she lands in the dance off. Her higher scoring dance was the Argentine tango. Everyone scored higher than her on their higher scoring dances.

Biggest chance of who leaves. Helen

Helen isn’t leaving expect Fleur and Will bottom two

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Helen isn’t leaving expect Fleur and Will bottom two

Will seems massively popular so I doubt it ,I haven't watched any of the dances back. But I think Fleur is definitely in danger.

From what I've heard ,the judges are voting tactically again .

[Mystic Mock]

I'll start negative first because I've felt like this for awhile now with the Show, but it's finally broke me a little bit.

I'm honestly sick to death of Hamza's overscoring, like Rose last year he'll score a 36-39 purely off of mostly average to bad routines, and they only keep giving him these big scores just because he is a fan favourite, and by doing that it makes the Show look farcical when they're seriously trying to say that he is dancing at the same level as Fleur, Molly & Will, and tbf even Helen's AT was better than anything that Hamza has done in weeks.

And to be even more controversial, besides his Salsa and his Couples Choice performances, can anyone honestly name another really stellar Hamza performance? Like one that you'll remember as an iconic Strictly performance?

I'd also say that Will's Paso was harshly underscored, especially compared to some of the other dances in that round.

Molly had a good night, especially with her Paso surprisingly.

Helen had a good AT imo, and bizarrely Shirley scored it lower than Hamza's AT a few weeks back.

And Fleur I thought did really well with the Charleston, but her Paso had really odd Music imo, I feel like it was an act of sabotage from the production.

And yes I get that it's just a Celeb dancing show, but I can't stand it when the competition is blatantly favouring one competitor over the rest of the others, it makes me resent Hamza's presence on the Show even though it's not even his fault, but I can't help it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'll start negative first because I've felt like this for awhile now with the Show, but it's finally broke me a little bit.

I'm honestly sick to death of Hamza's overscoring, like Rose last year he'll score a 36-39 purely off of mostly average to bad routines, and they only keep giving him these big scores just because he is a fan favourite, and by doing that it makes the Show look farcical when they're seriously trying to say that he is dancing at the same level as Fleur, Molly & Will, and tbf even Helen's AT was better than anything that Hamza has done in weeks.

And to be even more controversial, besides his Salsa and his Couples Choice performances, can anyone honestly name another really stellar Hamza performance? Like one that you'll remember as an iconic Strictly performance?

I'd also say that Will's Paso was harshly underscored, especially compared to some of the other dances in that round.

Molly had a good night, especially with her Paso surprisingly.

Helen had a good AT imo, and bizarrely Shirley scored it lower than Hamza's AT a few weeks back.

And Fleur I thought did really well with the Charleston, but her Paso had really odd Music imo, I feel like it was an act of sabotage from the production.

And yes I get that it's just a Celeb dancing show, but I can't stand it when the competition is blatantly favouring one competitor over the rest of the others, it makes me resent Hamza's presence on the Show even though it's not even his fault, but I can't help it.

Mock of course it's NOT Hamza's fault , so that's not really fair to say you 'resent him' . Why don't you resent Shirley ?? . She's the one being bias and ridiculous all the time .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Mock of course it's NOT Hamza's fault , so that's not really fair to say you 'resent him' . Why don't you resent Shirley ?? . She's the one being bias and ridiculous all the time .

Oh I already don't like Shirley that's why, her judging is incredibly biased imo.

And I know that it's not Hamza's fault, and he does seem like a nice guy.

But like with Rose last year he is getting an easy ride off the judges, and I do resent that aspect about the last couple of Strictly winners.

[Vanessa]

Will is the only non dancer left. No dancing experience whatsoever. I would love to see him in the final.
And he's not the weakest. I think he's great.

[Vanessa]

I think the judges are overscoring Hamza.
Maybe his vote is not as strong as Will and Helen?
Will and Helen are constantly underscored.

[Nicky91]

great show last night

Helen: that argentine tango first dance i liked from her, her waltz not so much kinda dull

Hamza: two solid performances once again

Molly: i enjoyed her american smooth, her paso was quality yes and she is very much deserving of a place in the final

Will: i felt for him in the paso, it is a super difficult dance for a male celeb to get right, his couples choice was a borefest, i was expecting something more

Fleur: her paso was mediocre at best, not her fault but the music wasn't right, and her charleston i preferred hamza's much wackier, and this one was too controlled, craig was right



my choices for the B2 would be Will vs Fleur, and Will can win with his CC i think in terms of scores wise comparison or Fleur has to suddenly dance a little less controlled in her Charleston second time around


if Molly is in dance off again, well i pray for you (aka new victim) no one can beat her in that paso

[Lewismacfarlane]

My family are team Hamza and team will



I'm team Helen

[Nicky91]

my dad is Team Hamzita



well i'm more neutral i guess ever since Team Twinkle Tones (Tony & Katya) left, it is a strong and very unpredictable year




my fave performances from my favourites had been his Grandstand theme cha cha, that was so much fun, with mimicking all the different sport events combined with such a solid cuban break move




i also liked James & Amy, his guardian of galaxy cha cha still so entertaining when i rewatch that

[GoldHeart]

What is going on , the spoiler isn't on the website still !! , I just know Fleur has gone I bet .

[Vanessa]

As long as Helen wins, the series is saved
I'm rooting for her.
Would love to see Will in the final. If not I'll see him at the tour. He has made the series worth watching for me.

[GoldHeart]

It's obvious it's between Helen & Will to win. I would prefer Helen out the 2 to win ,as she's actually a much better dancer and has improved.

My ideal winner would be Fleur or Molly ,but I know that's not happening. If Hamza wins ,then I'd still be happy for him ...despite what the judges have been doing.

Would be nice if one of the girls wins ,as they've been critiqued the harshest , especially by Shirley the sour face .

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

What is going on , the spoiler isn't on the website still !! , I just know Fleur has gone I bet .

don't overreact, we'll see the results tonight anyway


8:15 PM after Eastenders


with pro group number including Craig


and the wonderful Lewis Capaldi will be performing

[Strictly Jake]

Watching the paso from Molly again. There is no way that should not have been a 40. It's perfect there is nothing to fault it deserved a 40 for sure

[pontooner]

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by pontooner

Well that was a pile of...

On the dance-off, I thought Will edged it, Fleur's Charleston was better last night. But really, and I know its not his fault, Hamza is being shoved through every week and I've a real downer on him because of it. He's just bang average; reasonable at the latins, good timing out of hold and clearly strong enough to pull off some decent lifts (but so are lots of male celebs) but he's not a ballroom dancer of any merit and well outclassed by Will in that respect.

Molly is the best dancer and deserves to win it. I got what was said about Carlos above though. It's his first year and he reminds me of Graziano in his first year - sometimes forgetting his job is to show off the celeb follower and not make the dance about himself.

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

with this sort of weird public taste i even can do well with them


rather Hamza than Helen as the winner pls, jeez if Helen wins, how low the level of love for dance has sunk with the public Helen can't dance, just unfortunate she is a presenter with a long career

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh as someone that actually likes Fleur on Strictly, I do feel like it's a disgrace that the judges sent someone home when it's been his first time in the bottom two at the top 5, at that point I honestly feel like the dance-off shouldn't even matter and that the integrity of the competition actually feeling like a competition is more important.

And you're assessment of Hamza I feel is very fair, and I personally feel like he hasn't had a good dance in weeks, he is literally living off the Salsa dance all of the way back in week 4, and to a lesser extent his Couples Choice.

The public basically aren't flexible and are gonna stick with Hamza or Helen regardless of how they dance, or how Molly and Fleur dance, which is a huge problem for the Show because it makes watching certain performances pointless if the public don't even care about the performance. It's basically the same flaw that TXF had, especially in the later years.

And with Molly I agree that she's a very good dancer, her Paso especially was very good on Sunday, however she sadly does occasionally get sabotaged with horrible choreography on certain nights, which sadly has probably hampered her vote to some extent.

And Fleur is weird, she gets second on a singing contest when she can't sing, but struggles really badly in the vote on Strictly when she's delivered some of the most memorable dances of the series, you just can't make it up.

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Christmas Lights

I personally think Fleur CAN sing ,and she was an excellent performer aswell on XF ...but we have different opinions.

But I agree about it not being fair that she's been in the dance off so many times, despite having memorable fantastic dances & routines.

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Maybe I did word it harshly looking back at the post.

What I mean is that she's a much better dancer, yet the public keep dropping her in the bottom two, it's really bizarre.

people just need to vote right, how difficult can voting correct be


Fleur and Molly tower above Hamza and Helen as the far superior dancers

[Nicky91]

Will was indeed better in that dance off


i think Shirley needs glasses? at least Anton saw it right how wrong that lift went

[Nicky91]

british aren't as good as germans with shows like this


lets dance germany recent series standard of quality has been massively higher than strictly's level of quality


i mean having Lili Paul-Roncalli (not to mention having the earliest perfect 30 score so far out of all series) win a final against Luca Hanni, Moritz Hans and all 3 being phenomenally great, even the 4th place semi finalist Tijan Njie would've been a worthy finalist

or footballer Rurik Gislason winning against a superb consistent same-sex pair Nicolas & Vadim, and another consistent duo Valentina & Valentin while being amazing himself many weeks too (with even on paper duffers like Auma Obama having some exceptional good moments too)


or this year, paralympian Mathias Mester whom is 10000000000000% better than Ellie Simmonds for sure, a worthy finalist too on dance ability as well as performing ability for a non-actor, Janin & Zsolt being a consistent pair, Zsolt in his first pro year immediately a finalist, more deserving than Vito, Carlos, Jowita here what he got out of Janin in those weeks

and Rene Casselly as the winner, based on dance ability because well personality wise he isn't that liked, he can come across as a bit arrogant/overconfident



comedy contestant wise, lets dance treats them better than strictly too, some don't act like the comedy ones

like Martin Klempnow, Oli Pocher, Bastian Bielendorfer, Ailton, Ilka Bessin and even a 69 yr old news veteran Jan Hofer who was able to keep up with the youngsters quite decently in his own way


they also handled the disability contestant, deaf contestant better, Benjamin Piwko whom never got any ''sympathy support'' based on his disability but more based on the ability to perform really well with lots of emotions

[Nicky91]

if Helen wins i won't accept that

that ugly talentless woman