[kisywisy]

Originally posted by Cybele

Actually yes. Because he hasn't really done anything wrong. He is socially awkward, but he definitely isn't a stalker. I've had a stalker. In fact, my last exam in uni was with the police outside the door because my stalker had threatened to kill me. Marcus is no stalker.

What has he done? He fell for a pretty girl. Wow... throw him in prison and lock away the key! Almost everyone in the world has fallen for someone who didn't like them back. Hopefully, they didn't have to suffer has Marcus has with her hot/cold treatment. He isn't perfect by any stretch, but he also isn't the villan that people paint him to be. I feel a bit sorry for the guy.

And let me turn the tables back on you. If your son/husband/father/brother had been treated the way that Noirin has treated him AND been called the villan for it, how would you feel?

like i said in my last post:

why should we want someone to stay in the house because we feel sorry for them?? and why should we feel sorry for him acting like a spoiled child?? throwing things, threatening other hm with violence, constant swearing... why should we applaud anyone like that??

take noirin out the picture, he has acted like that the whole time he's been in the house

[Cybele]

Originally posted by kisywisy

like i said in my last post:

why should we want someone to stay in the house because we feel sorry for them?? and why should we feel sorry for him acting like a spoiled child?? throwing things, threatening other hm with violence, constant swearing... why should we applaud anyone like that??

take noirin out the picture, he has acted like that the whole time he's been in the house

Once again, you seem to want to attribute words to me that I didn't say. Please point out to me where I mentioned voting. Or applauding. I didn't. Please don't use my words for your own agenda. Also, please don't put words in my mouth. I am more than capable of speaking my own mind. Thanks.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Cybele

Actually yes. Because he hasn't really done anything wrong. He is socially awkward, but he definitely isn't a stalker. I've had a stalker. In fact, my last exam in uni was with the police outside the door because my stalker had threatened to kill me. Marcus is no stalker.

What has he done? He fell for a pretty girl. Wow... throw him in prison and lock away the key! Almost everyone in the world has fallen for someone who didn't like them back. Hopefully, they didn't have to suffer has Marcus has with her hot/cold treatment. He isn't perfect by any stretch, but he also isn't the villan that people paint him to be. I feel a bit sorry for the guy.

And let me turn the tables back on you. If your son/husband/father/brother had been treated the way that Noirin has treated him AND been called the villan for it, how would you feel?

Can't imagine what an awful experience that must have been - noone should have to experience that!

I'm sorry - but he is 35 - he must take some responsibility for his actions! Yes he liked Noirin - but did try to abuse the friendship and brainwash her into his way of thinking! And his sulking since - has been more of the same!

Regarding your final point - I would tell my son/brother/father etc to have some dignity and self respect and have nothing more to do with her.





Regarding your final point -

[Patrick]

Originally posted by DoM-h
People don't like Marcus of because who he is, not what he does. Just because he isn't the most attractive and he has be known to have smelly breath.

Here is a prime example:

Marcus liked Noirin. Noirin didn't like Marcus. Noirin got with Siavash. Marcus got annoyed. Everyone tells Marcus to 'get a grip'

Say... Halfwit likes Bea. Bea doesn't like Halfwit. Bea gets with Marcus. Halfwit gets annoyed. No one would tell Halfwit to get a grip and everyone would be like 'How could Marcus and Bea do that to Halfwit, get them out!!!!'

And you Marcus haters can't deny it.

Deffenatly

[Cybele]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

Can't imagine what an awful experience that must have been - noone should have to experience that!

I'm sorry - but he is 35 - he must take some responsibility for his actions! Yes he liked Noirin - but did try to abuse the friendship and brainwash her into his way of thinking! And his sulking since - has been more of the same!

Regarding your final point - I would tell my son/brother/father etc to have some dignity and self respect and have nothing more to do with her.

Agreed. He should have nothing more to do with her. Unfortunately, he is locked in a place where there are only about 3 rooms and a garden. Not many places to go to get away. And it seems to me that he has been trying to stay away from her and is being called sulky. Seems he will be judged poorly no matter what he does.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by Cybele

You seem to be reading things into what I said that I certain did NOT say. Please point out to me where I mentioned anything at ALL to do with voting? When did I say that we should applaud him? All I said is that he is deserving of some compassion. And that is because he had his heart broken by someone he liked/loved. And he has to go through it on national television. Everyone on this board either has been or will be brokenhearted at some point. And it sucks.

And regarding Noirin, I think it is about half and half whether people like her or not. My point was that if she wasn't pretty, I think a lot less people would excuse her actions.

yes being broken hearted does suck, but he has been acting in an inexcusable manner for quite some time and the fact that people are trying to justify his actions because he's a love-sick puppy is terrible. you wouldn't allow your children to behave like that without being reprimanded and he is a grown man.

are you honestly saying that you feel his actions are acceptable??

[Cybele]

Originally posted by kisywisy

yes being broken hearted does suck, but he has been acting in an inexcusable manner for quite some time and the fact that people are trying to justify his actions because he's a love-sick puppy is terrible. you wouldn't allow your children to behave like that without being reprimanded and he is a grown man.

are you honestly saying that you feel his actions are acceptable??

Given the circumstances, yes. He has distanced himself from the person who broke his heart as much as he can. He hasn't been watching her or talking to her or anything. He can't leave without leaving the show. There aren't many places in the house he can even go. They have like 3 rooms and the garden.

He is in a confined space with little food, no privacy etc. That is making them all on edge. Look at how many of them have been having breakdowns etc lately. Now combine that with the fact that he just had his heart broken and he has to be in the same place with the one who broke his heart AND his former best friend who she now kisses, cuddles and sleeps with.

Is he acting out? Yes he is. But I also think that most people would react similarly in the same circumstances. All I am saying that is that if he were cute, people might give him a bit more compassion. And if people tried to put themselves in his place, they might not vilify him so much.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by Cybele

Given the circumstances, yes. He has distanced himself from the person who broke his heart as much as he can. He hasn't been watching her or talking to her or anything. He can't leave without leaving the show. There aren't many places in the house he can even go. They have like 3 rooms and the garden.

He is in a confined space with little food, no privacy etc. That is making them all on edge. Look at how many of them have been having breakdowns etc lately. Now combine that with the fact that he just had his heart broken and he has to be in the same place with the one who broke his heart AND his former best friend who she now kisses, cuddles and sleeps with.

Is he acting out? Yes he is. But I also think that most people would react similarly in the same circumstances. All I am saying that is that if he were cute, people might give him a bit more compassion. And if people tried to put themselves in his place, they might not vilify him so much.

even before noirin and siavash got together his attitude and behaviour was disgusting. the only thing that has changed now is that he's sulking and giving noirin and sivash the silent treatment.

i'll agree that it's a difficult situation to be in since they are in a house together, but he is acting like a 13yo boy. he can't handle rejection, that's HIS problem noone elses

i refuse to feel sorry for a man that threatens others with violence, constantly swears, manipulates others, constantly tells others that their opinions are wrong, throws tantrums, is disrespectful, nasty, selfish, has serious problems with authority and can't take being told no.

this is the kind of person, man or woman, that i wouldn't allow around me or my family

[bigbrother10uk]

GET NOIRIN OUT 09016 16 16 10

[Adamw92]

Nah

GET MARCUS OUT 09016 16 16 09

[dbfs]

Do you know what it makes me sick - that blind one last year (dont even want to remember his name!!!!) was absolutely disgusting and pervy in the house and everyone was Oh no cant say awful things about him cos hes blind yet he came runner up - because Marcus has no disabailities that we are aware of hes labelled a perv his disgusting he smells his breaths bad etc etc and thats ok is it.
Well I like Marcus and he entertains me and I cant wait for that trollop to leave the house, it made me smile watching Bea and Dogface cuddle him.

[Cybele]

Originally posted by kisywisy

even before noirin and siavash got together his attitude and behaviour was disgusting. the only thing that has changed now is that he's sulking and giving noirin and sivash the silent treatment.

i'll agree that it's a difficult situation to be in since they are in a house together, but he is acting like a 13yo boy. he can't handle rejection, that's HIS problem noone elses

i refuse to feel sorry for a man that threatens others with violence, constantly swears, manipulates others, constantly tells others that their opinions are wrong, throws tantrums, is disrespectful, nasty, selfish, has serious problems with authority and can't take being told no.

this is the kind of person, man or woman, that i wouldn't allow around me or my family

The unfortunate thing is that most of the behaviors you have described have also been done by many others in the house. So, in a way, you have proven the point that Marcus is judged differently than others.

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by dbfs
Do you know what it makes me sick - that blind one last year (dont even want to remember his name!!!!) was absolutely disgusting and pervy in the house and everyone was Oh no cant say awful things about him cos hes blind yet he came runner up - because Marcus has no disabailities that we are aware of hes labelled a perv his disgusting he smells his breaths bad etc etc and thats ok is it.
Well I like Marcus and he entertains me and I cant wait for that trollop to leave the house, it made me smile watching Bea and Dogface cuddle him.

i for one couldn't stand mikey and he stayed the next town from me (so you'd think i would support him)

he was disgusting!!!

i don't think it's right that people felt sorry for him because of his disability at all. i judged him on how he was in the house the same way i do marcus

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by Cybele

The unfortunate thing is that most of the behaviors you have described have also been done by many others in the house. So, in a way, you have proven the point that Marcus is judged differently than others.

is there one other person in ther that has done ALL of the above??

you can expect people to have some of these flaws as noone is perfect. BUT for someone to react to situations the way that he has is unacceptable. do you think was acceptable to threaten tom with knocking him out just because he felt he would lose alfa male statis?? kenneth was threatening to bea, everyone was up in arms about it and he was evicted. noone thought it was ok for the way that lisa and co were victimizing freddie, so you can't use that as a comparison either.

every other hm in there is being judged on the way that they've behaved in the house, but you want marcus' actions to be excused because he's hurting and he's not good looking. makes no sense at all

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Cybele

Agreed. He should have nothing more to do with her. Unfortunately, he is locked in a place where there are only about 3 rooms and a garden. Not many places to go to get away. And it seems to me that he has been trying to stay away from her and is being called sulky. Seems he will be judged poorly no matter what he does.

Still feel he has behaved worse than her - and needs to take responsibility for that!! Doubt he ever will though from what I have seen!

She should also keep away from him and stop trying to 'make friends' - it is clearly not friendship he wants from her - and unfortunately that was always the problem! Personally - I do believe his ego has been dented - and he is sulking! Why can't he act his age!!

We will have to agree to disagree!!

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by kisywisy

is there one other person in ther that has done ALL of the above??

you can expect people to have some of these flaws as noone is perfect. BUT for someone to react to situations the way that he has is unacceptable. do you think was acceptable to threaten tom with knocking him out just because he felt he would lose alfa male statis?? kenneth was threatening to bea, everyone was up in arms about it and he was evicted. noone thought it was ok for the way that lisa and co were victimizing freddie, so you can't use that as a comparison either.

every other hm in there is being judged on the way that they've behaved in the house, but you want marcus' actions to be excused because he's hurting and he's not good looking. makes no sense at all

Sorry - but I do have to say that I agree with the last post!!

Siavash is hurting - and quite frankly he has more right to - but he doesn't behave the way Marcus does.

I don't think that pity justifies making excuses for someone's behaviour! I originally liked Marcus and didn't even notice his 'appearance' until he started behaving the way he did. For me - the ugliness from within made me view him differently on the outside.

Siavash - not necessarily the best looking guy in the world although still nice looking - but I think he is gorgeous - because his 'beauty' comes from within.

Strength of character. That is the only thing that counts!!!

[sl3ptsolong]

Originally posted by DoM-h
People don't like Marcus of because who he is, not what he does. Just because he isn't the most attractive and he has be known to have smelly breath.

Here is a prime example:

Marcus liked Noirin. Noirin didn't like Marcus. Noirin got with Siavash. Marcus got annoyed. Everyone tells Marcus to 'get a grip'

Say... Halfwit likes Bea. Bea doesn't like Halfwit. Bea gets with Marcus. Halfwit gets annoyed. No one would tell Halfwit to get a grip and everyone would be like 'How could Marcus and Bea do that to Halfwit, get them out!!!!'

And you Marcus haters can't deny it.

Marcus is a control freak. He was told plenty times by Noirin its just a friendship. He didnt listen because of his big head. Now he's went in a huff like a child would because they didnt get their way. Yes he should get a grip he's 35.

Halfwit needs to get a grip aswell he's smothering Bea a little. Just because I like the guy doesnt mean I dont think he's being a bit of a dafty about that.

[bansheewails]

All i have to say on the subject is that, if Marcus had not been in the house this year I would have switched off weeks ago. It was in danger of being a BB4, Marucs bless his cotton socks, certainly stirred up a hornets nest and is noow sitting back and watching the sho himself!

Marcus To Win!

[DoM-h]

Originally posted by kisywisy

why start a thread like this then??

your OP was pathetic

you ask marcus haters to post why they don't like him and then don't bother listening to them!!

BS thread and i'm done

BORED!!

I was expecting a better comeback, and i disrespect you because not once have i said your OP was wrong.

[Beyoncé]

That's not WHY I don't like him, but it does add to it, if that makes any sense... and I don't really care how superficial that sounds :P

[DoM-h]

Plus the other day in the Diary room was unesscerry, but it was quite funny.

Not that tokens matter to anyone on this website anyway

[Jack_]

This is a brilliant post, and completely true.

The people that want Marcus out are complete IDIOTS. He's the only one who stays up on Live Feed, get rid of him and we have nothing to watch.

Marcus was up and making me laugh so much last night, and that was just on his own. What was Noirin doing? ****ing sleeping.

[DoM-h]

Originally posted by Jack_
This is a brilliant post, and completely true.

The people that want Marcus out are complete IDIOTS. He's the only one who stays up on Live Feed, get rid of him and we have nothing to watch.

Marcus was up and making me laugh so much last night, and that was just on his own. What was Noirin doing? ****ing sleeping.

Lol, that is true. Whenever i've put live feed on i don't think i have ever not seen Marcus.

[Twiggy]

Originally posted by jet
Sree liked Noirin. Noirin didn’t like Sree. Marcus latched on to Noirin. Sree got annoyed. Marcus and Noirin taunted Sree.

You can’t deny it.

Noirin to go this week - Marcus next!

Agree.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Jack_
This is a brilliant post, and completely true.

The people that want Marcus out are complete IDIOTS. He's the only one who stays up on Live Feed, get rid of him and we have nothing to watch.

Marcus was up and making me laugh so much last night, and that was just on his own. What was Noirin doing? ****ing sleeping.

What sitting there staring up at the ceiling - that's all I saw last night - so switched off!!