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Enid · 05-01-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

the reason I don't find it funny has nothing to do with religion but more to do with respecting life. I have 2 kids maybe thats why I'm more sensitive about

Yeah, I can understand that. I have no kids, I hate the little brats myself, so... :P

Prole · 05-01-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

..... I have 2 kids maybe thats why I'm more sensitive about

The majority of kids who are abused are abused by their parents. Being a parent doesn't necessarily make a person more sensitive than people without kids.

Niamh. · 05-01-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Prole

The majority of kids who are abused are abused by their parents. Being a parent doesn't necessarily make a person more sensitive than people without kids.

I'm just telling you why i personally am sensitive about this subject, I'm not speaking for every parent in the world!!

Princess · 04-01-2010, 11:58 PM

I gasped,Nicola seemed more shocked than anyone really,her daugther is only little.

spitfire · 05-01-2010, 12:11 AM

Abortion is the only contraceptive that is 100% guaranteed to work.

Marc · 05-01-2010, 12:11 AM

Woooah now I didn't come onto this thread to say whether or not people are right or wrong. Just saying I thought it was funny because it was so blunt and she's not afraid to speak her mind. Whether she's right or not.

Marc · 05-01-2010, 12:27 AM

we need some humour in here! lets lighten it up

Princess · 05-01-2010, 12:30 AM

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.

spitfire · 05-01-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.

Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

Jords · 05-01-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spitfire

Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

Only some people think like this, like I said, others say its a living thing at conception.

letmein · 05-01-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords

Only some people think like this, like I said, others say its a living thing at conception.

They should have funerals every time it doesn't take, and the woman flushes it out.

Princess · 05-01-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spitfire

Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human bein,it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman.

Potential human being? What is this a game show? Every human being was once a foetus,killing a 'foetus' is killing a human,because they would have a person the woman hasn't had an abortion.

spitfire · 05-01-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess

Potential human being? What is this a game show? Every human being was once a foetus,killing a 'foetus' is killing a human,because they would have a person the woman hasn't had an abortion.

So if i crush an acorn,i've killed an oak tree?

letmein · 05-01-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by spitfire

So if i crush an acorn,i've killed an oak tree?

I'm calling the cops!

letmein · 05-01-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess

Having an abortion is killing a baby,no question about it. Calling it a different name doesn't mean it wouldn't have been a person.

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Niamh. · 05-01-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Where the ***** did you get that idea of Ireland??? We're not under Catholic rule and most families do not have upwards of 5 kids!!

letmein · 05-01-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Where the ***** did you get that idea of Ireland??? We're not under Catholic rule and most families do not have upwards of 5 kids!!

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.

Niamh. · 05-01-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.

The government run the schools. Ireland does not have issues with womens rights

Have you even been to Ireland ever??? Where are you getting your "facts"???

Stu · 05-01-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

Who runs the schools? Give me a break. Ireland has major issues when it comes to women's rights.

The Church runs some of the schools, yes, but it's purely administrative. Our youth are incredibly secular and can be usually found smoking joints out the back during relgion class. I know this because I was brought up in the system. The one you have no idea about.

Seriously, come here and take a look around. You'd be in for a rude awakening.

Stu · 05-01-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5 kids per family. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Rubbish. Abortion may be illegal here but the Catholic Church has about as much public influence as Jimmy Saville in Ireland these days. And Irish families on average these days are getting smaller and smaller. In line, if not smaller, than the average of a British family.

As for abortion? A foetus is not capable of thought or emotion. It is not capable of the things that set us apart from what we chop up and kill on a plate every evening.

Princess · 05-01-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Ok now because I'm Irish I'm under control of 'The Catholic Church?' That's not patronising at all. I'm not religious,at all. I just personally don't believe in abortion. It's a personal choice,but I won't have people telling me it's not killing a living thing when it clearly is!

Jords · 05-01-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein

You're in Ireland, and live under control of the Catholic Church. Irish families have upwards of 5-plus kids per family. Birth control is still seen as sinful. I'm not surprised your mind is so warped when it comes to abortion. Science does not agree with you. It is an embryo, not a baby.

Im not Irish and I am not Catholic, I see embryo's as potential people, but I do not see abortion as throwing old jeans in the bin, it needs serious thought. And I could see quite clearly how people could regret doing it, your crazy.