[Nemo123]

The drink makes you paranoid.

[InOne]

So does Weed.

[Captain.Remy]

On a economical and financial point...that'd be a disaster. Cigs and alcohol are some of the biggest income of every country.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

On a economical and financial point...that'd be a disaster. Cigs and alcohol are some of the biggest income of every country.

Er, funnily enough, countries which have cheap booze like France, Spain, Portugal, etc.have fewer problems with antisocial drinking. It's not at all an issue in these countries

Revenue. Problem drinking. Not issues.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Nemo123

Er, funnily enough, countries which have cheap booze like France, Spain, Portugal, etc.have fewer problems with antisocial drinking. It's not at all an issue in these countries

Revenue. Problem drinking. Not issues.

That wasn't my point but I guess you're right.

[Nemo123]

I know it wasn't. Antisocial drinking has high costs in terms of all the asociated problems, violence, accidents, absenteeism, etc, etc, etc, compensated for by the tax revenue to the govt. Just remarking in other civilised countries they don't have the same problems nor do they overly rely on tax from tobacco and alcohol.

Taxing something to discourage it is bogus.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Todays 5 live debate but what do you think?

think big

Yes the world would be better off. But it's not going to happen alcohol is a too entrenched recrational drug to get rid of...It could be better managed though.......


A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Yes the world would be better off. But it's not going to happen alcohol is a too entrenched recrational drug to get rid of...It could be better managed though.......


A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

I don't think I've ever heard anyone using the word 'draconian' in a positive context.

For my own part, I'd say the so called "war on drugs" has done more harm than good. Resources that might have been better spent on policing and incarcerating antisocial and violent criminals are instead drained by every successive government's futile and sisyphian struggle to tackle the drugs trade by targeting suppliers and addicts, many for whom psychiatric treatment would be far more effective than imprisonment... and that's before you get into the issue of legality. You can thank pressure from the scaremongering media for that.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by bananarama

A more realistic possibility is the banning of all other recreational drugs and drug taking.........Draconion measures would be needed to rid the world of trashy drugs.....Just needs the political will and the sacking of all psyco babble advisers.....

Realistic? dont talk sheeeite. Would you then also ban tea and coffee unless it was decaffeinated? What about sugar and sugar substitutes? They all give highs.

Political will? So what do you advocate about such countries as Columbia, Burma, Thailand etc that cant effectively control the producers within its own borders? Invade them?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

exactely! Yeah, there are a lot of idiots who abuse it but should everyone else have to give it up because of them? It's not really fair

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

exactely! Yeah, there are a lot of idiots who abuse it but should everyone else have to give it up because of them? It's not really fair

Yep. You can apply that logic to most soft drugs, too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Stu

Yep. You can apply that logic to most soft drugs, too.

absolutely agree with that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

the idiots you refer to are either people who change after 1 drink and then cannot help the compulsion to keep drinking

or

ill educated people who if they were from a more affluent, better educated home would not drink as they do.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Probably - but, as usual, it is the idiots that abuse it that spoil it for the rest!

Yep your right Wombai. People can take things too far.