[Z]

Joe has the support of Cheryl though, so I think he'll get more of a chance than Leon ever did to get it right. The song was rubbish though, it's just this wall of high pitched noise and the video tries to hide that with a lot of cheesy dancing. He's actually a very good singer, and although I was never really a fan of him on the show, he was by far the deserving winner. He'll maybe do better with the second single off the album.

[cub]

If Joe had come back with a ballad, people would have said 'He should have come back with an upbeat dance track - this is the same as the last one'.

Joe's been away for a year. This past year he's been working away in the studio with people (managers producers, etc) telling him he needs to come back with a major impact. Something so good and different that it, and his appearance on the X Factor - seen by millions - will sell by the bucketload.

What happens? He comes back with a cover and it limps in the chart at no. 6.

[Scarlett.]

Everyone knew he'd flop, there's nothing "stand out" about him

[Captain.Remy]

Olly would have been so much better. I'm not being mean to Joe (because I've been enough in the past) but he has got nothing special to stand out from the crowd. He's just...a random singer.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

yeah and olly cant sing,he isnt a good performer and he does ****** dancing.

I don't find Olly good either, I wasn't keen on his X Factor performances either.

[cub]

The issue is NOT the quality of the winner or the song. The problem is the almost a year's wait to get the first album out.

Pop music is immediate. That means it's immediate successful and immediately forgettable.

They need to prepare a bare bones album of about eight new songs and then record the winning act vocal on top with a few extra songs from the best performances from the show.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by cub

The issue is NOT the quality of the winner or the song. The problem is the almost a year's wait to get the first album out.

Pop music is immediate. That means it's immediate successful and immediately forgettable.

They need to prepare a bare bones album of about eight new songs and then record the winning act vocal on top with a few extra songs from the best performances from the show.

Totally agree with this, far too long to wait over 8 months for a follow up to a number one single. Such a long delay for an album also is rediculous.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by cub

The issue is NOT the quality of the winner or the song. The problem is the almost a year's wait to get the first album out.

Pop music is immediate. That means it's immediate successful and immediately forgettable.

They need to prepare a bare bones album of about eight new songs and then record the winning act vocal on top with a few extra songs from the best performances from the show.

Leona & Alexandra are doing fine after waiting that long

[MeMyselfAndI]

no stupid excuses. Alexandra came back with a up beat song, she got #1 and sold loads

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

no stupid excuses. Alexandra came back with a up beat song, she got #1 and sold loads

her album did **** though.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

her album did **** though.

her album platinumed over 600,000 sales thats not ****. Thats really good, but people compare her to leona who sold over 7 million albums which is not fair on alexandra really. im sure joe wont sell more than 600,000 or platnum and i like joe

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

her album did **** though.

Wikipedia
The album debuted at #1 in the UK Albums Chart, selling 132,000 copies in its first week, the fourth biggest opening sales figures for a female artist in 2009. In addition to the album being certified Platinum in the UK following its first three weeks of release, it also spawned four successful singles including her platinum selling X Factor winner's single "Hallelujah". The lead single "Bad Boys" entered the UK Singles Chart and the Irish Singles Chart at #1 and was certified Platinum in the UK. It was also nominated for British Single at the 2010 BRIT Awards. The follow up singles "Broken Heels" and "All Night Long" also fared well, charting in the top-ten of the UK and the Irish Singles Chart. The lead single of the repackaged edition of the album, Start Without You debuted at #1, becoming her 5th number-one single. The song entered the Irish Singles Chart at #5. The album was nominated for Best Album 2010 at the Urban Music Awards.[13] To date Overcome has sold 700,000 copies in the UK

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Wikipedia
The album debuted at #1 in the UK Albums Chart, selling 132,000 copies in its first week, the fourth biggest opening sales figures for a female artist in 2009. In addition to the album being certified Platinum in the UK following its first three weeks of release, it also spawned four successful singles including her platinum selling X Factor winner's single "Hallelujah". The lead single "Bad Boys" entered the UK Singles Chart and the Irish Singles Chart at #1 and was certified Platinum in the UK. It was also nominated for British Single at the 2010 BRIT Awards. The follow up singles "Broken Heels" and "All Night Long" also fared well, charting in the top-ten of the UK and the Irish Singles Chart. The lead single of the repackaged edition of the album, Start Without You debuted at #1, becoming her 5th number-one single. The song entered the Irish Singles Chart at #5. The album was nominated for Best Album 2010 at the Urban Music Awards.[13] To date Overcome has sold 700,000 copies in the UK

and then a week later the album dropped to number 7 and the next week dropped out of the top 10 in the uk.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

and then a week later the album dropped to number 7 and the next week dropped out of the top 10 in the uk.

Im not even bothered enough to go checking facts and figures week by week. But if youre implying that Alex has been any kind of flop then youre being pretty ignorant.

Firstly, she's just had her 5th No1. And if you think an album sells over 700k by plummeting down the charts after one week then I just give up.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

and then a week later the album dropped to number 7 and the next week dropped out of the top 10 in the uk.

Just quit it, whichever way you cut it she's not a flop. Your opinion isn't fact and it's just embarassing to see your flailing attempts to justify it as so.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

and then a week later the album dropped to number 7 and the next week dropped out of the top 10 in the uk.

Its gone platinum, its hardly a flop

Meanwhile 3 out of 5 songs off that album have gone in at number 1, the other at #4 and the other at #8. Her last single went in at #1, thats quite impressive considering most people buy the album and the single sales tail off by the end of the album and it wasn't promoted on XF. Her only remote flop is Broken Heels at #8 but that was released in a very competitive week and outsold equivalent singles by other XF winners.

[Jevans]

Stacey didn't release that song for personal gain. It was for charity, also its a cover of an old song which wouldn't make into the charts these days. Even though its miles better then some **** in the charts these days

[cub]

According to midweeks Joe has slipped to no. 17. This means he could well be out of the top twenty by the end of the week.

[erichardse10]

Not surprised Joe didn't do so well in the charts!. Lets be honest, when you all voted for him, he was never going to scale the heights of say Leona or Alexandra Burke.

I also must add that if Stacey won last year i don't think she would have done any better either. I just feel that last year was a bad year, the quality wasn't as good and we were never really going to get a huge star unlike previous years. Ollis done well mind it has to be said, but is that just a one off?

[Z]

Originally Posted by erichardse10

Not surprised Joe didn't do so well in the charts!. Lets be honest, when you all voted for him, he was never going to scale the heights of say Leona or Alexandra Burke.

I also must add that if Stacey won last year i don't think she would have done any better either. I just feel that last year was a bad year, the quality wasn't as good and we were never really going to get a huge star unlike previous years. Ollis done well mind it has to be said, but is that just a one off?

I'd say last year had, overall, a greater standard of talent than the year before, but the voting public let the better acts slip out of the competition at the midway point. Miss Frank, Rachel Adedeji, Lucie Jones, Jamie Archer and Danyl Johnson all had fantastic voices and, IMO, would have gone on to be better winners than Joe, Olly or Stacey who ended up making it to the final. Even John and Edward would have made better winners, they at least have boundless energy and determination to achieve their goals.

[Tom]

He's dropped 15 places to 21

[Iceman]

But doesnt the album have a ton of pre-orders?

[Locke.]

The album is out tomorrow, right? If that doesn't get #1 then he's definitely in trouble. Who elses albums come out this week?

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Locke.

The album is out tomorrow, right? If that doesn't get #1 then he's definitely in trouble. Who elses albums come out this week?

Cheryl?

[red]

Originally Posted by Locke.

The album is out tomorrow, right? If that doesn't get #1 then he's definitely in trouble. Who elses albums come out this week?

October 25
Charlotte Church: 'Back To Scratch'
Joe McElderry: 'Wide Awake'
Taylor Swift: 'Speak Now'
The Wanted: 'The Wanted'

hoping the KOL can stay at no1 tho