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Old 11-11-2010, 08:29 PM #1
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They've just gone to further show how much of a mockery this country is becoming.

You'd get killed for pissing on a Qua'ran in any Islamic country, yet these mugs get police protection, and the people protesting against them come out worse? What a fucking disgrace.

And it's only going to get worse... I need to go to NZ.
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You'd get killed for pissing on a Qua'ran in any Islamic country, yet
This is not an Islamic country though. That's. The. Point. Why does everyone relish missing the point? Saying 'yet ...' defeats the purpose. It signals that you would like some sort of censorship brought in just like oh I don't know ... those Islamic countries you just complained about!

I agree with the rest of your post though. They should not be getting police protection or any sort of advantaged over the EDL and co. Equal rights for all.
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This is not an Islamic country though. That's. The. Point. Why does everyone relish missing the point? Saying 'yet ...' defeats the purpose. It signals that you would like some sort of censorship brought in just like oh I don't know ... those Islamic countries you just complained about!

I agree with the rest of your post though. They should not be getting police protection or any sort of advantaged over the EDL and co. Equal rights for all.
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This is not an Islamic country though. That's. The. Point. Why does everyone relish missing the point? Saying 'yet ...' defeats the purpose. It signals that you would like some sort of censorship brought in just like oh I don't know ... those Islamic countries you just complained about!

I agree with the rest of your post though. They should not be getting police protection or any sort of advantaged over the EDL and co. Equal rights for all.
Exactly. I hate it when people compare our nation to fundamentalist Islamic ones. What, just because they're intolerant enough to kill people for disrespecting their religion we should to? We should be grateful that we live in a democratic society, where you are allowed to freely express your views, instead of looking to Islamic countries for punishment tips.
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Entirely predictable that there is a news blackout on this.
One man threatens to burn a Koran in the land of 9/11 and it makes international news and cries of racism.
A baying mob burns a Poppy on Armistice Day in the land of the infidel... No news.
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Thats true but their seriously is no need for half the hatred thrown at regular Muslims over this. Its just the media blowing everything out of proportion....as usual.
Yep, exactly. Unfortunately there's so many idiots in this country who are unable to distinguish between extrimists (of which there are very few) and normal Muslims.

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A baying mob burns a Poppy on Armistice Day in the land of the infidel... No news.
Maybe it's because there were only 30 people there and it shouldnt be allowed to overshadow remembrance day?
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Maybe it's because there were only 30 people there and it shouldnt be allowed to overshadow remembrance day?
One man threatens to burn a Koran in the land of 9/11 and it makes international news and cries of racism.
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One man threatens to burn a Koran in the land of 9/11 and it makes international news and cries of racism.
Not really true though is it, he attempted to create a widespread and publicised book-burning event, and anyway the press reaction to that was ridiculous as well. This story is being covered as well, it's just proportionate to the signficance of the protest in most outlets i.e. skynews just gave it a brief mention in their article about remembrance sunday - it deserved nothing more.
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i.e. skynews just gave it a brief mention in their article about remembrance sunday - it deserved nothing more.
Yet it's the most talked about topic on most forums i've been on today.

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Entirely predictable that there is a news blackout on this.
One man threatens to burn a Koran in the land of 9/11 and it makes international news and cries of racism.
A baying mob burns a Poppy on Armistice Day in the land of the infidel... No news.
I'm glad it wasn't mentioned in the news. The day wasn't about a few idiots burning poppys, it was about remembering our fallen hero's. Coverage is what they want. I'm glad the day didn't become about them.
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I'm glad it wasn't mentioned in the news. The day wasn't about a few idiots burning poppys, it was about remembering our fallen hero's. Coverage is what they want. I'm glad the day didn't become about them.
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They should buy themselves plane tickets and leave.
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Ah but if they did that and left good old blighty for some Islamic utopia, they would lose the right to demonstrate, and their entitlements to benefits!
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I actually feel something close to hatred for these crazy, disrepectful tossers!

They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it! Round them all up and throw them on a plane back to Allah land.. (fling a rucksack or two in after them too!)
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They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it! Round them all up and throw them on a plane back to Allah land.. (fling a rucksack or two in after them too!)
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Thats the thing, you move to another country and you adapt to their way of life. Even on holiday you do. I mean, a few years ago I went to tunisia...and obviously in the tourist areas they are used to seeing people in shorts and that, but it IS classed as disrespectful for women to 'flaunt themselves' by daring to expose legs or cleavage. When we went to the markets and that, I would make sure I was dressed respectfully, regardless of the weather, I nearly passed out at one point, but its what you do...why upset people just for the sake of it...

I realize a lot of these people are born here, but surely those would have adapted already, being brought up here :/

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Thats the thing, you move to another country and you adapt to their way of life. Even on holiday you do. I mean, a few years ago I went to tunisia...and obviously in the tourist areas they are used to seeing people in shorts and that, but it IS classed as disrespectful for women to 'flaunt themselves' by daring to expose legs or cleavage. When we went to the markets and that, I would make sure I was dressed respectfully, regardless of the weather, I nearly passed out at one point, but its what you do...why upset people just for the sake of it...

I realize a lot of these people are born here, but surely those would have adapted already, being brought up here :/
Yes exactly, when in Rome and all that. If you don't like the countries ways then it's pretty simple really...............go home! Funny though these people I'm sure adapted quickly enough to all the good things that benefited them!!
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Yes exactly, when in Rome and all that. If you don't like the countries ways then it's pretty simple really...............go home! Funny though these people I'm sure adapted quickly enough to all the good things that benefited them!!
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Oh I agree, totally with the 'When in Rome' (I lived in the M.E. for years, behaved the way the Laws of the Country dictated, and I loved it).

That's fine and well for those who have exiled themselves from their 'homeland', but some (a lot) of these Muslim Extremists were actaully born and bred in Britain. Never having set foot outside of the country that they protest about. That's what pissed me off.... these are people who's own homelands don't allow such freedom of act/speech without being chucked in a hell hole called a jail - ie: a jail that is as it shoudl be, a place that people do not want to ever have to be sent to - unlike namby pamby British jails.
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Thats the thing, you move to another country and you adapt to their way of life. Even on holiday you do. I mean, a few years ago I went to tunisia...and obviously in the tourist areas they are used to seeing people in shorts and that, but it IS classed as disrespectful for women to 'flaunt themselves' by daring to expose legs or cleavage. When we went to the markets and that, I would make sure I was dressed respectfully, regardless of the weather, I nearly passed out at one point, but its what you do...why upset people just for the sake of it...

I realize a lot of these people are born here, but surely those would have adapted already, being brought up here :/
Which Tunisia is this? From a parallel universe? Tunsia, is not a prudish country, or a fundamental muslim country. You will stick out more if you did dress conservatively! Women there dress the exact same way, as people do in the UK, probably wear even less, because its not cold over there. A few wear Hijab and stuff, but they are the exceptions. MOst of them dont.
Another big misconception, there are only a few opredominantly muslim countries, where you see all women covered up from head to toe. Obviously, those are the ones people like to identify muslims with. This fable, proves it even more.
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Which Tunisia is this? From a parallel universe? Tunsia, is not a prudish country, or a fundamental muslim country. You will stick out more if you did dress conservatively! Women there dress the exact same way, as people do in the UK, probably wear even less, because its not cold over there. A few wear Hijab and stuff, but they are the exceptions. MOst of them dont.
Another big misconception, there are only a few opredominantly muslim countries, where you see all women covered up from head to toe. Obviously, those are the ones people like to identify muslims with. This fable, proves it even more.

There is no need for you to be so bloody patronising.

Tunisia may be a very liberal country, however the fact remains that 98% of the 10million population of Tunisia follow the Islamic faith(Sunni) and to that end, Westerners will afford a high level of respect, for which you appear to be ridiculing somewhat in your post (as well as trying belitte another fm). You post here suggests that it would be more than acceptable to wander around Tunisian souks wearing a bikini top - when this is not the case.

I visited Tunisa about 15 years ago, and let me tell you right now, outside of the 'more Cosmopolitan areas', I can assure you, I felt as restricted there as I did when I lived in Saudi Arabia So please.... your own opinoin doesn't speak for the experience others may have had.
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There is no need for you to be so bloody patronising.

Tunisia may be a very liberal country, however the fact remains that 98% of the 10million population of Tunisia follow the Islamic faith(Sunni) and to that end, Westerners will afford a high level of respect, for which you appear to be ridiculing somewhat in your post (as well as trying belitte another fm). You post here suggests that it would be more than acceptable to wander around Tunisian souks wearing a bikini top - when this is not the case.

I visited Tunisa about 15 years ago, and let me tell you right now, outside of the 'more Cosmopolitan areas', I can assure you, I felt as restricted there as I did when I lived in Saudi Arabia So please.... your own opinoin doesn't speak for the experience others may have had.

OK, I guess that was a little rude. But my point is, Tunisia, is a very liberal country. But to compare it to Saudi Arabia, is really not informed is it? I go to Tunisia often, maybe every year, with a few exceptions. MY brother lives there. Its restricted, in the form of sensure, and things like that, but culturally, its completely relaxed. And I am talking from experience, not just hearsay.

But again, if that was rude, I apologize. I ust know, its not a country you go into, and think, oh I better cover up!
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