[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what are your own beliefs about magic gods?

I'll bite.

I like to believe in a god but I believe in science and evolution as well. I can't see why one side can only be right. Who's to say that God created all we know with a big bang and Evolution? If there's an afterlife then I don't believe in the idea that you have to be a devout religious person to access it, it's something I struggle with in organised religions because what if an Atheist lead a perfectly good life helping others and generally bettering the world in whichever way they could? Would they be denied Heaven (or Heaven equivelant) despite the good they achieved with their life just because they didn't believe? I don't like that. I think we've got free will to choose, not be bullied into believing out of fear. I do like the idea of a purgatory though, not so much burning-in-a-lake-of-fire purgatory but a place where you make peace with the questionable stuff you've done in the past before moving on. I don't believe in Hell full stop.

Hmm, that's the general gist of it. Not saying it's right or wrong but that's what I like to believe personally.

[Crimson Dynamo]

One side describes what we know and experience day to day, it explains it using a method that can be checked and peer reviewed using techniques that we use in all other disciplines like the law


the other side is fabricated and no one would even attempt to try and prove it otherwise


the 2 cant live together for that very reason

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One side describes what we know and experience day to day, it explains it using a method that can be checked and peer reviewed using techniques that we use in all other disciplines like the law


the other side is fabricated and no one would even attempt to try and prove it otherwise


the 2 cant live together for that very reason

Interesting viewpoint LT.

Not meaning to be insulting but do you suffer from Schizophrenia or some other disorder?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Interesting viewpoint LT.

Not meaning to be insulting but do you suffer from Schizophrenia or some other disorder?

none taken

no i do not

but dont take his word for it, he wouldnt

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

none taken

no i do not

but dont take his word for it, he wouldnt

I dont

[arista]

"Madonna certainly found a few"


No that Old Bint found Money Greedy Cults.

[BB_Eye]

I think pretty much every major religion has its good points apart from Christianity.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

I think pretty much every major religion has its good points apart from Christianity.

All the mono ones are pretty much the same, why single out Christianity?

[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by InOne

All the mono ones are pretty much the same, why single out Christianity?

The Islamic world inherited the philosophical and scientific sophistication of the ancient Greeks and Romans and brought many benefits to the world as a result. Medieval Europe was a laughing stock compared to the Arab world for this reason and destroyed far more than it created. The European Renaissance that came later owes more to Homer, Pythagoras and Plato than it does to Jesus or St. Paul.

I also admire the fact that Islam has a far more practical goal than that of Christianity. To make politics inseperable from the teachings of the prophet Muhammad where Christianity emphasises the salvation of the soul. Something completely abstract and unattainable. In this sense, there is more truth to Islam.

Judaism clings to similar values as Christianity, but it never went so far as to universally prescribe them and as such, never became missionary. They had a bloodline to maintain and it is perhaps as a result of this that the Jewish people have accomplished so much and survived persecution to the extent that they did.

Make no mistake though, I find paganism (particularly the Greek pagans) and animism preferable to all three.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

The Islamic world inherited the philosophical and scientific sophistication of the ancient Greeks and Romans and brought many benefits to the world as a result. Medieval Europe was a laughing stock compared to the Arab world for this reason and destroyed far more than it created. The European Renaissance that came later owes more to Homer, Pythagoras and Plato than it does to Jesus or St. Paul.

I also admire the fact that Islam has a far more practical goal than that of Christianity. To make politics inseperable from the teachings of the prophet Muhammad where Christianity emphasises the salvation of the soul. Something completely abstract and unattainable. In this sense, there is more truth to Islam.

Judaism clings to similar values as Christianity, but it never went so far as to universally prescribe them and as such, never became missionary. They had a bloodline to maintain and it is perhaps as a result of this that the Jewish people have accomplished so much and survived persecution to the extent that they did.

Make no mistake though, I find paganism (particularly the Greek pagans) and animism preferable to all three.

Well the Islamic world still has the blasphemy law, which sort of lets it down big time. Especially in this day and age

[Angus]

It is precisely because Islam is inextricably entwined with political ideology that its followers are so intolerant of other faiths, beliefs and lifestyles, and do not accept any criticism whatsoever. If ever there was a totalitarian religion, Islam is it.

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by angus58

It is precisely because Islam is inextricably entwined with political ideology that its followers are so intolerant of other faiths, beliefs and lifestyles, and do not accept any criticism whatsoever. If ever there was a totalitarian religion, Islam is it.

Indeed and for the reasons you state a very dangerous religion.......Even in its so called moderate form.....it is an extreme mental delusion that is brainwashed into each new generation perpetuating taught madness......