[Beastie]

Originally Posted by angus58

I do see your point, but personally I would report him simply because it is too often assumed that racism is a one way street, and that view should be challenged sometimes. Good luck.

Thanks Angus

[MTVN]

Course it's not racist to say "I am not English", dont be so ridiculous

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Course it's not racist to say "I am not English", dont be so ridiculous

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

Oh right, well why were they saying that?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Beastie

Noo someone said to me that I am not English.

well thats not racist either

just stupid

assuming you are English...

[Angus]

Race Relations Act 1976

[F4] 3A Harassment

(1)A person subjects another to harassment in any circumstances relevant for the purposes of any provision referred to in section 1(1B) where, on grounds of race or ethnic or national origins, he engages in unwanted conduct which has the purpose or effect of—.
(a)violating that other person’s dignity, or.
(b)creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for him..
(2)Conduct shall be regarded as having the effect specified in paragraph (a) or (b) of subsection (1) only if, having regard to all the circumstances, including in particular the perception of that other person, it should reasonably be considered as having that effect.].

Beastie this is the relevant section of the Act (which I think was amended and included in 2000) if you decide to report this guy.

[Rob]

i think we are far from being a weak nation

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

While travelling I came across many people from other countries and many of who said that England was a weak nation as we are cowardly, let other nations walk all over us, cannot stand up for ourselves and that we are generally a laughable nation.

Do you agree with this?

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

Not really living up to your username there are you?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not really living up to your username there are you?

Explain how I am not living up to it.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Explain how I am not living up to it.

Banning gay marriage, and taking someone's life, doesnt seem the normal viewpoint of a believer in liberty and the freedom of the individual. What ever gave you the right to take the life of someone else, or tell them they're sexual practices are wrong and not deserving of marriage?

I suppose you're also against abortion?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Banning gay marriage, and taking someone's life, doesnt seem the normal viewpoint of a believer in liberty and the freedom of the individual. What ever gave you the right to take the life of someone else, or tell them they're sexual practices are wrong and not deserving of marriage?

I was giving a list of things England could do to alter people's perception. It doesn't necessarily mean I whole-heartedly believe in them. To be honest I don't think England should really care what other people think of them. If we're gonna make this about what I believe then let me say that I don't think government should be involved in marriage one way or the other. It's a religious instrument and, in my ideal world, the state should stay out of it altogether. I generally am against the death penalty but would be hard-pressed to say that it should never be considered or on the table.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I suppose you're also against abortion?

Absolutely I'm against abortion. Absolutely, 100%, against it. And holding that position does not contradict my username at all because the life and liberty of a baby is of greater importance than a few months of bodily freedom of a woman who got drunk and stupid one night. She can always adopt, ya know.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

We couldnt just secede from the EU the economic costs to the country would cripple us. There isnt many turn up on banana boats ( thats quite a racist term you realise in that context), we do forcibly repatriate illegal entrants though not enough. Which Judicial decisions have incorporated Sharia Law?

Citizens dont need the right to bear arms etc they often get into enough troubles themselves without the added bonus of firearms. Bring back the death penalty? Oh right because it really does deter murders etc as we can see from US crime rates. Isnt the death penalty also prescribed in Sharia Law?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Shasown

We couldnt just secede from the EU the economic costs to the country would cripple us.

Absolutely you can secede from the EU. There were American colonists who thought America couldn't secede from the British Empire because of economic reasons like trade. But if you look at the statistics, if anything, trade ties grew stronger after the war. The sooner you get out of the EU, the better.

Originally Posted by Shasown

There isnt many turn up on banana boats ( thats quite a racist term you realise in that context), we do forcibly repatriate illegal entrants though not enough.

One reason people perceive you as weak is because many of you are hyper-sensitive to statements that allegedly could be racist or politically incorrect. There are few things in this world I dislike more than the rampant and suffocating political correctness environment where every comment people make that could be remotely perceived as racist is assumed to be racist until shown otherwise. Personally, I'd love it if the British government said get back on the banana boats not to be mean or racist but to show, in no uncertain terms, that they're not going to let asylum seekers walk all over them anymore.

Originally Posted by Shasown

Which Judicial decisions have incorporated Sharia Law??

Do a google search.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Absolutely you can secede from the EU. There were American colonists who thought America couldn't secede from the British Empire because of economic reasons like trade. But if you look at the statistics, if anything, trade ties grew stronger after the war. The sooner you get out of the EU, the better.



One reason people perceive you as weak is because many of you are hyper-sensitive to statements that allegedly could be racist or politically incorrect. There are few things in this world I dislike more than the rampant and suffocating political correctness environment where every comment people make that could be remotely perceived as racist is assumed to be racist until shown otherwise. Personally, I'd love it if the British government said get back on the banana boats not to be mean or racist but to show, in no uncertain terms, that they're not going to let asylum seekers walk all over them anymore.



Do a google search.

I'd like you to explain something. Take a Russia asylum seeker as an example - how does your terminology 'ge back on the banana boats' apply to them. Please...... explain that. Far as I'm aware, no banana boats ever came in from Russia????

so please, tell me how that is not a racist comment?

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I'd like you to explain something. Take a Russia asylum seeker as an example - how does your terminology 'ge back on the banana boats' apply to them. Please...... explain that. Far as I'm aware, no banana boats ever came in from Russia????

so please, tell me how that is not a racist comment?

I don't think I need to tell you how that is not a racist comment because last time I checked bananas have nothing inherently to do with race. And if you think bananas have something to do with race, then perhaps you are the racist here. And for Russian asylum seekers you could come up with some other phrase to use but considering there are probably few Russian asylum seekers I'm not sure it would be worth it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Relative to previous centuries, 21st century England absolutely is a weak nation. But this is a trend for all western nations and England could easily rectify it by doing the following:

Immediately secede from the EU. Tell the illegals to get back on the banana boats they came from or be forcibly removed. Stop incorporating Sharia Law into judicial decisions.

And for extra credit, consider doing the following: Allow citizens to own firearms. Ban gay marriage. Bring back the death penalty.

Christ. It's a long while since i've read such an obviously bigoted and racist comment. Liberty? You clearly have no idea what the word means.

Your post is hypocritical -clearly you are either being deliberately posting in a trolling like manner for the reaction - or have no idea what you are talking about.

[karezza]

"Men of England, heirs of Glory,
Heroes of unwritten story,
Nurslings of one mighty Mother,
Hopes of her, and one another;
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number,
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you-
Ye are many — they are few"

Percy Shelley

[MTVN]

On what grounds would a Russian be granted asylum? That cant be very common

['Conor]

in reply to *let nations walk all over us*

ehm how you invaded like half the world at one point?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by 'Conor

in reply to *let nations walk all over us*

ehm how you invaded like half the world at one point?

I think the word should be we, after all Ireland was part of the United Kingdom and men from all over Ireland willingly took the King's/Queen's shilling. In fact some still do. At various points in history but especially during the Victorian era over 60% of the British Army was composed of Irishmen.

Some very prominent Irishmen were appointed colonial government positions and also held responsible positions in companies like the East India Company

Irishmen played a key role in the British conquest and administration of India. The Irish contribution to the making of the British Empire in India took many forms, including viceroys such as the Anglo-Irish aristocrats Lord Mayo and Lord Dufferin. In the late nineteenth century, as much as one quarter of the Indian Civil Service (ICS) was made up of Irishmen, including prominent colonial administrators such as Sir Michael O’Dwyer, the controversial lieutenant governor of the Punjab during the Amritsar massacre of 1919. In addition, Irishmen made up a large part of British military forces in India; in the mid-nineteenth century, as many as forty per cent of the East India Company’s soldiers were Irish. Finally, Irishmen played an important role in the Indian police, a service with neither the prestige of the ICS or the glamour of the Indian army, but one that in the twentieth century was of tremendous importance in the maintenance of British rule in India.
http://www.historyireland.com/volume...atures/?id=242

['Conor]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I think the word should be we, after all Ireland was part of the United Kingdom and men from all over Ireland willingly took the Queens shilling. (At various points in history but especially during the Victorian era over 60% of the British Army was composed of Irishmen.)

Some very prominent Irishmen were appointed colonial government positions and also held responsible positions in companies like the East India Company

ehm ireland was part of the united kingdom because you invaded us in the 1st place

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by 'Conor

ehm ireland was part of the united kingdom because you invaded us in the 1st place

I didnt invade Ireland nn.

The Normans did if you want the truth. But then again why let the facts stand in the way of your truth.