[Iceman]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

Agreed. She shouldn't have been kicked out charley and nicki said the same word in the same context after she did and because they are black didn't get punished. It was rasism kicking her out. Just because she was White why can't she say the same word black people can say. If she had said it in a bullying way it would have been unacceptable but she wasn't malicious atall she said it in the way rappers say it. If eminem put it in one of his songs it would be considered 'fine'

He has and nobody batted an eyelid, stupid producers being too PC

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Big Borther 8 I would say.

[Lee.]

I'd agree with all of that MacH!

Especially about the hms becoming "characters"

I also hate the to-ing and fro-ing of hms.. People walking, new replacements, surprise newbies, dounle/quadruple evictions.. You hardly get to really know some of them. I REALLY want them to simplify it thisyear and put 10/12/14/however many hms in then evict one a week like they used to do.. No twists or manipulating the results. Just the least liked housemate evicted!

[Mac Hiavellian]

Originally Posted by happyland

I'd agree with all of that MacH!

Especially about the hms becoming "characters"

I also hate the to-ing and fro-ing of hms.. People walking, new replacements, surprise newbies, dounle/quadruple evictions.. You hardly get to really know some of them. I REALLY want them to simplify it thisyear and put 10/12/14/however many hms in then evict one a week like they used to do.. No twists or manipulating the results. Just the least liked housemate evicted!

Cheers, Doll!

In a way I think BB10 tried to do that and that's why the producers didn't interfere too much (but when it did it was awful decisions such as Kenneth, Isaac, magazine scandal). The problem with the HMs in BB10 was that they were still characters. You had Siavash (Rasputin!), Angel (WTF?) and Marcus (Wolverine!) and from the moment they entered the house they were judged for being weird.

BB11's lot were a lot more normal in comparison. Once you get over the shock of Steve not having any legs or that he has 1 eye he was very normal. The only 3 people I'd say that appeared as 'characters' on launch night were Shabby (which she was), Corin (Jordan wannabe) and Dave (monk!) whilst Mario was made to wear the mole outfit. Take off the costumes and they're suddenly normal people.

The thing that worries me about BB on Channel 5 is that apparently Desmond still wants a 13 week BB12 but reportedly with normal HMs again. Because it'll be so soon after the 4 week CBB I'm kinda worried it'll drag on and be too boring and so they'll inevitably have to rely on the same old tricks even if 5 won't be as watered down as Channel 4's later days

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

Cheers, Doll!

In a way I think BB10 tried to do that and that's why the producers didn't interfere too much (but when it did it was awful decisions such as Kenneth, Isaac, magazine scandal). The problem with the HMs in BB10 was that they were still characters. You had Siavash (Rasputin!), Angel (WTF?) and Marcus (Wolverine!) and from the moment they entered the house they were judged for being weird.

BB11's lot were a lot more normal in comparison. Once you get over the shock of Steve not having any legs or that he has 1 eye he was very normal. The only 3 people I'd say that appeared as 'characters' on launch night were Shabby (which she was), Corin (Jordan wannabe) and Dave (monk!) whilst Mario was made to wear the mole outfit. Take off the costumes and they're suddenly normal people.

The thing that worries me about BB on Channel 5 is that apparently Desmond still wants a 13 week BB12 but reportedly with normal HMs again. Because it'll be so soon after the 4 week CBB I'm kinda worried it'll drag on and be too boring and so they'll inevitably have to rely on the same old tricks even if 5 won't be as watered down as Channel 4's later days

Yip.. I think that if they can find 12 or so interesting people, there shouldn't be any need to resort to old tricks.

Surely out of the thousands of people that audition, they can select individuals who will entertain us.

I couldn't care less about screeching queens, siliconed air heads, wannabe WAGS/pornstars, witches, monks, women who shave etc etc..

I just want a good mix of people who can converse and debate a matter. I want wit, fun, sarcasm, hilarity, disagreements.. When was the last time there was a genuinely hilarious housemate??

I just don't want the fame hungry saddoes that act all crrazy in their VTs, go into the house screeching like a banshee on launch night and then are quite happy to sit wrapped in their duvet and bitch about how bored they are just in the hope that they might find ready made fame on leaving the house!

Remember Kate Lawlers year? The likes of her and Johnny and Alex etc were just normal people who actually made an effort to interact and have fun without trying to be "wacky"!



Dear god! I'm about to talk myself into never watching BB again! I'm gettin furious about something that hasn't even happened yet!

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Mac Hiavellian

Cheers, Doll!

In a way I think BB10 tried to do that and that's why the producers didn't interfere too much (but when it did it was awful decisions such as Kenneth, Isaac, magazine scandal). The problem with the HMs in BB10 was that they were still characters. You had Siavash (Rasputin!), Angel (WTF?) and Marcus (Wolverine!) and from the moment they entered the house they were judged for being weird.

BB11's lot were a lot more normal in comparison. Once you get over the shock of Steve not having any legs or that he has 1 eye he was very normal. The only 3 people I'd say that appeared as 'characters' on launch night were Shabby (which she was), Corin (Jordan wannabe) and Dave (monk!) whilst Mario was made to wear the mole outfit. Take off the costumes and they're suddenly normal people.

The thing that worries me about BB on Channel 5 is that apparently Desmond still wants a 13 week BB12 but reportedly with normal HMs again. Because it'll be so soon after the 4 week CBB I'm kinda worried it'll drag on and be too boring and so they'll inevitably have to rely on the same old tricks even if 5 won't be as watered down as Channel 4's later days

BB4 and BB11 had pretty much "normal" housemates. But they both turned out to be boring series.

BB10 had the most unlikeable housemates which is why it became mentally draining and people started turning off.

We need likeable, interesting, entertaining housemates. Sure we need a few unlikeable to cause fireworks. Even likeable characters fall out with each other because they are threatened that the other one will win.

Anyway we need a mixture of all people. Both "normal" people and freaks. Just please don't choose anyone Boring. I doubt Desmond will!

[Vicky.]

Race row killed it mostly, c4 was too scared to have anything controversial from that moment.

And then add to that the casting of people with agents/freaks, lack of imagination, crap tasks, disastrous production decisions...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Race row killed it mostly, c4 was too scared to have anything controversial from that moment.

And then add to that the casting of people with agents/freaks, lack of imagination, crap tasks, disastrous production decisions...

yeah, that's it really in a nutshell

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by The_Big_Send_Off

i dont get it, everyone used to watch big brother! it used to have really high rating, what the hell happend to it?

The answer to that is simplicity itself. Ofcom and the PC brigade that activate Ofcom is what happened to BB. Also a bunch of PC puritanical scared of authority knob heads at CH4

[Zippy]

People just get bored of seeing the same thing so gradually switch off.

It would have gradually lost viewers no matter what they did tbh. By BB4 viewers were tired of normal HMs. Then by BB8 they were tired of loud attention ***** HMs. Since then its just been clinging on to its hardcore audience.

Worldwide its no longer a huge deal so the format has obviously just got tired.

[Stu]

And he dissed this playa for accidentaly double posting.

You couldn't make it up.