[Visage]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Word for Word in her Interview with Brian

Brian says "Who told Jay, Heaven was eating all the food"

Rebeckah says " It was me"

Brian Says "Because that's where the whole thing stems from"

Rebeckah Says "Aden told me, and i didn't want to tell anyone it was Aden because he was in there watching her"

Is she lying again?

Well Aden indeed was their watching Heaven sweeping the floor in the highlights when Jay etc ran out of the Bedroom after being told she's eating everything. I got to say i believe her. And think she's been stitched up along with the viewers who believed she made that rediculous spontaneous lie up on the spot

So why did she still deny it when Jay pulled her up in private? Jay knew it was her and she still sat there and said she never said it.

[Chuck]

I think she's lying again

[Visage]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I think she's lying again

Which makes it impossible to believe anything that come out of her mouth.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Visage

So why did she still deny it when Jay pulled her up in private? Jay knew it was her and she still sat there and said she never said it.

Well her following words we're

Rebeckah "I couldn't come out and say, well yea i said it, because Aden told me"

Sounds like that's her answer to your question

Is it reasonable to think she would keep shtum in her grilling with Heaven & Jay to protect Aden from getting the stick which she is getting?

[fingers]

She is totally incapable of differentiating between fact and fantasy (Lies)

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Is it reasonable to think she would keep shtum in her grilling with Heaven & Jay to protect Aden from getting the stick which she is getting?

No. Not by the way I have seen her behave in there.

She sat there knowing what she said to Jay and said nothing. I would have had more respect if she told Jay that yes he was right, however she's protecting someone and doesn't want this to blow up in that persons face.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Visage

No. Not by the way I have seen her behave in there.

She sat there knowing what she said to Jay and said nothing. I would have had more respect if she told Jay that yes he was right, however she's protecting someone and doesn't want this to blow up in that persons face.

You have to disbelieve her Interview to trust what you have seen of her.

Sure we can trust a lot of what we see, i.e continuos scenes, and not need to think about manipulation in the Edit, i'e between scene changes, such as it is there is a suggestion something in-proper has happened. There are many things that can be twisted out of all context.

All i know for sure is i'm going to be watching very closely what the rest of the Hm's have to say when they come out. And lets remember this is not C4 anymore it's C5 and they are desperate for ratings. When in doubt i ask myself What is to be gained. For C5 it's ratings, for Rebeckah the gain would be an attack on Heaven. It's not an easy decision but im giving the benefit of the doubt to Rebeckah for the time being.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

You have to disbelieve her Interview to trust what you have seen of her.

Sure we can trust a lot of what we see, i.e continuos scenes, and not need to think about manipulation in the Edit, i'e between scene changes, such as this at least suggests. There are many things that can be twisted out of all context.

All i know for sure is i'm going to be watching very closely what the rest of the Hm's have to say when they come out. And lets remember this is not C4 anymore it's C5 and they are desperate for ratings. When in doubt i ask myself What is to be gained. For C5 it's ratings, for Rebeckah the gain would be an attack on Heaven. It's not an easy decision but im giving the benefit of the doubt to Rebeckah for the time being.

You make great points and I respect that, we don't know the full story and who knows if we ever will?

I will be more than happy to shout out I was fooled by C5 & BB into thinking Rebeckah was a twisted bitch and only out for herself, if the truth was ever exposed. I can only base my judgement on what I've seen and because of the way Rebeckah has handled situations in the house, I have difficulty in believing anything she says, in or out of the house.

I love getting into discussions over the housemates, trying to work them out and sometimes my opinion has changed, however with Rebeckah I've seen nothing to convince me otherwise..

[yami watching]

ok lets just say for arguments sake ch5 took one look at at this poor girl and decided to ruin her life (or her bb experience at least) by manipulating all the footage we see to make her look bad

if this is true...


why do the majority of the housemates feel the sameway towards her?

[Jake.]

Erhhhhgg.... This manipulation by channel 5 sh*te is boring now. She was a bi*ch, get over it

[Parmy]

She has to lie and cheat in her job and about what she said about the biscuits so I find it unbelievable how people can suddenly think she's telling the truth now.

[Incensed]

IF CH5 have edited it to make her look bad, you have to ask yourself why?

Ok, possible reasons. They edit the programme so that the person they want as eventual winner isn't voted off, but, they still want to make as much money as possible from the show. So, they edit it so that Rebeckah looks a far more evil cow than she actually is, and this evil cow has a possible fauxmance with Aden, a lad much younger than herself (emotive issue) Rebeckah gets voted off early in the show and on leaving does a kiss and tell, drip fed into OK mag over a number of weeks. Conclusion - Desmond sells more mags and makes more money than he would if she had been kept in.

Well if I was being cynical that would be one reason

[flamingGalah!]

I suppose Channel 5 edited out all the footage of the other housemates saying what a lovely, trustworthy girl Rebeckah is too...

She is full of sh*t. End of...

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I suppose Channel 5 edited out all the footage of the other housemates saying what a lovely, trustworthy girl Rebeckah is too...

She is full of sh*t. End of...

I agree, and I did say they could have edited it to make look more evil than she actually is

If, and that's a big if, they have indeed edited her, you have to ask what they would have to gain by doing so. The only reason I can think of is that they would make more money out of her, out of the house than in.

[Jake.]

Everyone is the house thought the same as us (apart from Aden), get over it, she was evicted and now you are clutching at straws. Funny how none of you mention this until AFTER she is evicted

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Incensed

I agree, and I did say they could have edited it to make look more evil than she actually is

If, and that's a big if, they have indeed edited her, you have to ask what they would have to gain by doing so. The only reason I can think of is that they would make more money out of her, out of the house than in.

I don't for one minute think that is the case though. Lets think about it...

We saw Rebeckah being vile, this was shown as it was the most exciting thing happening in the house....

The other housemates were seen commenting on her behaviour & that she is a liar etc...

She was put up for eviction, by the other housemates...

Channel 5 cannot have manipulated any of that.

People have to accept that she is simply a lying, manipulative bitch. Hell even her reaction to her behaviour was disgusting, laughing at the footage of her being a bitch & being caught out lying. She didn't try & protest her innocence did she??

[lostalex]

Tara Reid basically said this when she came out. You could tell she was NOT happy with production at all. Also Pamela when she came out was shocked at some of what Brian was telling her, and she was saying the same thing also.

It's hard to tell whether they are just deluded, and have sour grapes, or if there really is manipulation.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I don't for one minute think that is the case though. Lets think about it...

We saw Rebeckah being vile, this was shown as it was the most exciting thing happening in the house....

The other housemates were seen commenting on her behaviour & that she is a liar etc...

She was put up for eviction, by the other housemates...

Channel 5 cannot have manipulated any of that.

People have to accept that she is simply a lying, manipulative bitch. Hell even her reaction to her behaviour was disgusting, laughing at the footage of her being a bitch & being caught out lying. She didn't try & protest her innocence did she??

I'm not sticking up for her in any way, I detest the woman and I agree with what you say. The thread is about shady goings on, so I was just throwing some possible reason as to why into the mix. I'd be interested in what people who think there have been shady dealings think of the reason why.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Tara Reid basically said this when she came out. You could tell she was NOT happy with production at all.

That's probably because we just got to see what a druggie mess she really is...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

That's probably because we just got to see what a druggie mess she really is...

Well if she was using drugs in the house and production didn't show it, i'd qualify that as manipulation of the truth. So i'm not sure what your point is... lol

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well if she was using drugs in the house and production didn't show it, i'd qualify that as manipulation of the truth. So i'm not sure what your point is... lol

I mean what past addiction to drugs has done to her, rather than snorting lines in the house!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Tara Reid basically said this when she came out.

Tara said this after seeing a 2 minute mashed together clip. Sorry but that is not enough to go on. If she had waited a little, watched a few episodes, and THEN said it then I may have been inclined to think there was something in it. But her judging on a choppy 2 minute HL reel...no :/

[PrincessIona]

I have a seen a clip on either bb, or bit on side showing bits of the noms and there was a clip of bb saying "that is not a valid reason for nomination", I actually thought it was to heaven but I definitely saw them say it! I was surprised that they didn't show it when they showed he actual clip on the show because I was curious what the reason was.

If anyone has time to skim through a few shows you will find it!

As for Rebeckah being edited to look manipulative, whilst I'm sure they weren't helping her by showing nice clips I do believe she really is a nasty manipulative person. The housemates have seen it, and they are the ones living with her

[Doogle]

See, if we had LF, the people who only watch highlights would see it differently to those with LF, and then she'd probably not seem like the bad guy as much. If we'd have at least seen everything that happened we could have a better understanding of it, rather than a quick HL show

[flamingGalah!]

Even if we had LF people would still say we are only seeing what they want us to see. We have these conspiracy theories every single year & we always will, LF or not...