[Omah]

Originally Posted by letmein

Amanda is seen as innocent in America. She's safe.

Nobody's safe in the USA - some prominent assassinations :

Elijah P. Lovejoy (1837), editor of an abolitionist newspaper, the "Alton Observer", by a mob of pro-slavery advocates.
James Strang (1856), Michigan State Representative and leader of the Strangite Church.
Abraham Lincoln (1865), 16th President of the United States.
James A. Garfield (1881), 20th President of the United States.
David Hennessy (1890), Police Chief of New Orleans.
Samuel Newitt Wood (1891), Kansas Legislator and Senator.
Carter Harrison (1893), Mayor of Chicago.
William Goebel (1900), governor of Kentucky.
William McKinley (1901), 25th President of the United States.
Don Mellett (1926), newspaper editor and campaigner against organized crime.
Anton Cermak (1931), Mayor of Chicago.
Huey Long (1935), U.S. Senator, Louisiana.
Walter Liggett (1935), Minnesota newspaper editor.
Carlo Tresca (1943), anarchist organizer.
Curtis Chillingworth (1955), a Florida judge.
John F. Kennedy (1963), 35th President of the United States.
Medgar Evers (1963 June 12), U.S. civil rights activist.[1]
Malcolm X (1965 February 21), black Muslim leader, killed in a Manhattan banquet room as he began a speech.
George Lincoln Rockwell (1967), founder of the American Nazi Party.
Martin Luther King, Jr. (1968 April 4), U.S. civil rights activist.[1]
Robert F. Kennedy (1968), leading presidential candidate in the 1968 presidential election
Fred Hampton (1969), Deputy Chairman of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther Party.
Dan Mitrione (1970), FBI agent and torture expert, killed by the guerrilla movement Tupamaros.
Marcus Foster (1973), School District Superintendent in Oakland CA, killed by members of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
Don Bolles (1976), Investigative reporter for Arizona Republic, killed in car bomb, Max Dunlap and James Robison convicted, alleged Mafia ties.
Orlando Letelier (1976), Chilean ambassador to the United States under the administration of Salvador Allende.
George Moscone (1978, November 27) Mayor of San Francisco, shot and killed by Dan White in San Francisco City Hall.
Harvey Milk (1978, November 27) San Francisco city supervisor, shot and killed by Dan White in San Francisco City Hall.
John Lennon (1980 December 8), British musician, member of The Beatles, shot and killed by Mark David Chapman.
Alan Berg (1984), radio talk-show host, killed by Neo-nazis.
Henry Liu (1984), Taiwanese-American writer, allegedly killed by Kuomintang agents.
Alex Odeh (1985), Arab anti-discrimination group leader, killed when bomb exploded in his Santa Ana, California office.
Alejandro González Malavé (1986), famous undercover policeman, in Bayamón, Puerto Rico.
Meir David Kahane (1990), Member of the Israeli Knesset, Founder of the JDL and the Kach Party, Zionist
Ioan P. Culianu (1991), Romanian historian of religion, culture, and ideas, professor at the University of Chicago, assassinated there in Swift Hall, apparently for his political writings.
David Gunn (1993), abortion doctor.
John Britton (1994), abortion doctor.
Selena Quintanilla (1995), tex-mex singer assassinated by Yolanda Saldivar, her fan club's president.
Barnett Slepian (1998), abortion doctor.
Thomas C. Wales (2001), federal prosecutor and gun control advocate.
Chauncey Bailey (2007), Oakland Tribune journalist.
Bill Gwatney (2008), Chairman of The Arkansas Democratic Party
George Tiller (2009), late-term abortion doctor, shot as he ushered at his church.
John M. Roll (2011), federal judge in Arizona

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...sinated_people

..... and, of course, on 9 Jan 2011, congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head and six people were killed .....

[lostalex]

It's about time. I think Rudy Guede did this alone, he only pointed to Knox and Rafelle to save his own skin and also because italian prosecuters put pressure on him. He's also got a history of knife crime before. He assualted another women after he broke in and threated her with a knife before. Amanda and Rafelle had no prior connection to crime at all.

Amanda has suffered everyone's worst nightmare, her friends and family have suffered as well. Her parents lost their house in order to pay for her lawyers. If Amanda is able to make some money, and buy her parents a new house, i see nothing wrong with that, and also it's important she tells her story so that hopefully she can help other people in similar positions who face discrimination in foreign countries and don't get a fair trial.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It's about time. I think Rudy Guede did this alone, he only pointed to Knox and Rafelle to save his own skin and also because italian prosecuters put pressure on him. He's also got a history of knife crime before. He assualted another women after he broke in and threated her with a knife before. Amanda and Rafelle had no prior connection to crime at all.

Amanda has suffered everyone's worst nightmare, her friends and family have suffered as well. Her parents lost their house in order to pay for her lawyers. If Amanda is able to make some money, and buy her parents a new house, i see nothing wrong with that, and also it's important she tells her story so that hopefully she can help other people in similar positions who face discrimination in foreign countries and don't get a fair trial.

What about the barman who Amanda Knox unfairly accused of being involved? He went through hell and had his life turned upside down because of that woman. Turned out he was just a random bloke she dragged in to save her own skin.

Whether she's innocent or not she's proven herself throughout the trial to be one hell of a compulsive liar. Something does not add up with her.

Originally Posted by lostalex

who face discrimination in foreign countries

To an extent I agree with this. With all these kinds of cases I always get the feeling (in this case the Italians) the country involved just think sod it, and don't give it their full attention because the people involved aren't natives.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Whether she's innocent or not she's proven herself throughout the trial to be one hell of a compulsive liar. Something does not add up with her.

My feeling entirely ..... she is definitely

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

My feeling entirely ..... she is definitely

She's not a compulsive liar. Don't you wonder why the Italian police didn't record their interogation of Amanda knox??? It's standard practice in all civilized countries so it can be used it court, but mysteriously, the Italians don't record and play the interrogation of Amanda knox??

It's because she was interrogated in a way that was even worse than what you'd see in Guantanamo Bay, that's why they don't record it and play it.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

She's not a compulsive liar.

Time will tell .....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What about the barman who Amanda Knox unfairly accused of being involved? He went through hell and had his life turned upside down because of that woman. Turned out he was just a random bloke she dragged in to save her own skin.

Whether she's innocent or not she's proven herself throughout the trial to be one hell of a compulsive liar. Something does not add up with her.



To an extent I agree with this. With all these kinds of cases I always get the feeling (in this case the Italians) the country involved just think sod it, and don't give it their full attention because the people involved aren't natives.

The man she "falsely accussed" although really the police falsely accussed him, and got Amanda to sign a document in Italian (she didn't speak or read italian fluently at the time" that accussed him. He spent i believe 2 weeks in jail? Amanda spent 4 years in jail falsely accussed. How can you compare a man being falsely imprisoned for 2 weeks to someone who's been falsley imprisoned for 4 years? I don't think you can.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The man she "falsely accussed" although really the police falsely accussed him, and got Amanda to sign a document in Italian (she didn't speak or read italian fluently at the time" that accussed him. He spent i believe 2 weeks in jail? Amanda spent 4 years in jail falsely accussed. How can you compare a man being falsely imprisoned for 2 weeks to someone who's been falsley imprisoned for 4 years? I don't think you can.

She ruined his reputation. And even had his own wife doubting him.
Amanda Knox has been released purely on the incompetence of the Italian police force. Doesn't mean she's innocent at all, just means they buggered up all the evidence. The first 24 hours are crucial and they allowed the crime scene to be contaminated.

And yes, she is a compulsive liar. Not just through the trial but when the whole story of her time with her boyfriend and Meredith. Not to mention all the sex addiction stuff, guilty or not guilty of murder that woman is a walking psycho.

[Sticks]

I am hoping that the Italian authorities stop her fleeing back to the US.

The prosecutors have already said they will contest this "aquittal"

There is a lot more I would want to say, but as with another case, money can buy"justice" and stifle free speech.

[psychtracker]

That's a good result (imho), i looked into this case in quite a bit of detail about a year ago, and quite frankly the guilty verdict was bizarre and unfounded. Flimsy evidence at best, a complete crime scene botch up by the italian police, and trial by media because she exhibited some unusual behaviour after her flatmates death. Regardless if she did do it (and seems unlikely), it's more speculation rather than any hard evidence, i'm glad they saw common sense and finally released her.

[lostalex]

Watching Meredith Kertcher's family holding a press conference now. They really have behaved appaulingly. They clearly want Amanda punished even though she is innocent. They should focus more on grieving their loss, instead of pointing fingers at innocent people. Meredith would be ashamed of her family's behavior throughout this whole thing.

[Sticks]

I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

Yeah I'm sure the Italians and the Americans would just love that

Edit - actually a lot of Italians probably would Not the Americans though

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

She was cleared and the evidence against her was weak at best, why waste money persecuting someone who has already been cleared of a crime? Just because of some irrational people who haven't been following the case has assumed her guilty regardless?

They should put their efforts into finding the real killer instead of punsihing innocent parties just so they can close the case quickly. Going after Knox now is a waste of time and resources.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

Was accused, she's a free woman and can do what she likes.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I hear that Miss Knox changed planes in London

Someone dropped the ball

She is accused of murdering a British national in many people's eyes. Why could our British police have not arrested her here in London? Even if it happens abroad, I always thought you could be tried for the murder of a British national here in the UK?

If Amanda was tried in the UK instead of Italy, with all the same evidence in the Italian trial, she never would have been convicted in the first place in the UK. All UK legal experts have said that.

[arista]

Ch5 Matt Wright is front page today
he says this morning it was bad graphics
on his show. He did not mean sleep with her, he claims.

[fruit_cake]

Matt has gone a bit far there but generally I think he's quite good as a chat show host

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Matt has gone a bit far there but generally I think he's quite good as a chat show host

On the few occasions I've watched the show, Matthew Wright irritates me beyond belief. At first it was his sense of humour and how he went on and on and on about a joke if he thought it was funny. But then I saw his petty and arrogant streak when he'd cut callers off the phone if he didn't agree with their opinion.

[Cromwell1900]

In respect of the Media coverage, here we have 2 people

Knox & Sollecito

both convicted of the same crime, receiving the same sentence Knox 26yrs Sollecito 25yrs, freed by the same court on the same day, yet all the media coverage in the UK has been on Knox.

I just find that a bit wrong!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

In respect of the Media coverage, here we have 2 people

Knox & Sollecito

both convicted of the same crime, receiving the same sentence Knox 26yrs Sollecito 25yrs, freed by the same court on the same day, yet all the media coverage in the UK has been on Knox.

I just find that a bit wrong!

I'm sure Sollecito isn't complaining! Or did you mean it's unfair on Knox?

[Cromwell1900]

On a few levels really.

A. Isn't the Media suppose to be imparcial, so as to best deliver the truth.
I mean Knox is a good looking chick is British Media doing a "C5 Big Brother Edit" and concentrating on delivering an "interesting" story rather than delivering us facts

B. If the Italian Media was as bad how could the 2, actually yes Knox..... possibly get a fair trial in the first place given italian Juries are not required to be isolated from the Media and are allowed to watch anything they like.

[Tom4784]

You should be a journalist Omah, you've got a flair for dramatics

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You should be a journalist Omah, you've got a flair for dramatics

Mark my words .....

[Sticks]

Even the Kercher family are 100% behind the Italian prosecutors in their efforts to overturn this travesty of justice. We all need to get our MP's to get the UK government to make representations to the US government so that Amanda Knox is extradited back to Italy to serve her sentence when this acquittal is over turned as it surely will be.

The entire appeal was a sham

We had a judge speaking out of turn, and the so called independent experts getting too chummy with the defence.