[joeysteele]

He brings a whole new meaning to the phrase 'he's a .... stirrer'.

[lisa12000]

Someone needs to screencap her replies (im crap at that sort of thing) as if they want to cover it up they will ask her to delete it

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by lisa12000

Someone needs to screencap her replies (im crap at that sort of thing) as if they want to cover it up they will ask her to delete it

Locke has done that, it's post #8 in this thread.

[Jords]

Ch5 knew this would make him very unpopular and thats why theyve covered it up

Pretty clear why Aaron keeps his distance from him.

[joeysteele]

Not in my opinion it isn't,I don't know of any humans that would do such a thing in a freezer where possibly other peoples food is.
Anyone doing that in any freezer or fridge I had to have access to, I would consider them even lower than animals, certainly not a good advertisement for the human race.

If you need to go desperately somewhere that is a different thing but to even do it or put it in the freezer,( it still got there clearly as ex housemates are confirming),is possibly the most gross and indecent thing a 'grown' man could do.

[Bojangles]

I find this story very hard to believe.I think it's a set up.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Bojangles

I find this story very hard to believe.I think it's a set up.

I find it very easy to believe, especially as each ex housemate bar Mark who was mates with Jay in there and could be one of the one's who dared him to do it. has mentioned it now, some on their twitter pages. There could easily be a set up, but in a good way for Jay as C5 is ignoring this which sort of stinks and justifies it being true even more.

[joeysteele]

Heaven certainly was disgusted,it also depends on how many other housemates knew he had and what they had been told as to it in the house, likely as to not mentioning the incident again that it had been dealt with.

[Locke.]

His **** entered the freezer because Heaven said the food all had to be replaced.

[joeysteele]

Had it just been a joke rather than him doing it actually, it would have been one of the main things featured on highlights.They have shown worse of hin than that if it was only a joke.
The only reason it wasn't shown is because it goes beyond near all human decency.

No denials that it happened from BB says loads about the issue.

[Vicky.]

If it was a story he told about doing it on the outside(which would still be gross but not as bad, as I dont care what they do in their own houses :/ ) then why would the food INSIDE the house have to be replaced?

Disgusting twat should have been removed. I'm not voting in this show anymore as they clearly already pick their winner early on and then do whatever it takes for it to happen, inclusing covering up things like this, people have been thrown out for MUCH less.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If it was a story he told about doing it on the outside(which would still be gross but not as bad, as I dont care what they do in their own houses :/ ) then why would the food INSIDE the house have to be replaced?

Disgusting twat should have been removed. I'm not voting in this show anymore as they clearly already pick their winner early on and then do whatever it takes for it to happen, inclusing covering up things like this, people have been thrown out for MUCH less.

Excellent point.

Also: if it was just a joke: why would no one be referring to it, BB or the HMs. After all, jokes are meant to be amusing, just like the joke BB played on Anton for his birthday.

Because it wasn't any joke at all. Because it happened. And they've all been told to shut up about it, not refer to it at all whilst they are in the house. Threats could have been easily made by BB, that those hms who do refer to it, may face immediately removal from the house.

I don't feel that that is far fetched, indeed, I reckon it's pretty close to the truth.

[vesavius]

Nothing really to add here that hasnt been said, except that the way C5/ Endemol have handled this shows a real contempt for their fanbase imo.

The edits, lies, and general cover up has been so heavy handed and served no purpose but to undermine what fraction of trust I had remaining in them.

I can 100% say that with no LF to keep them semi honest I won't be watching next year (if there is a series next year ofc)



They need to apologise to their fans, the people that make it possible for them to get paid, and remove Jay now.

[MTVN]

Urgh, I wasn't saying that it was a joke or a story, merely pointing out the fact that a) we have no specific account of what happened b) it doesn't seem to have disgusted any of the house mates or changed their opinion of him which is strange and c) the only place you'll find people care about this is on BB forums, not one single website or tabloid has reported it which is also strange

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by MTVN

it doesn't seem to have disgusted any of the house mates or changed their opinion of him which is strange

I also think that's rather interesting. Although I'm sure they didn't really want to find a piece of **** inside their freezer, it seems they didn't take it seriously at all. So if they weren't really bothered about it and they're the ones who have to live with him, why would I care.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by chuck.pass

I also think that's rather interesting. Although I'm sure they didn't really want to find a piece of **** inside their freezer, it seems they didn't take it seriously at all. So if they weren't really bothered about it and they're the ones who have to live with him, why would I care.

Unless of course: they've been told that any discussions on the matter - at all - must not be referred to - with the threat of being removed from the house if they don't play ball.

It's highly plausible.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Urgh, I wasn't saying that it was a joke or a story, merely pointing out the fact that a) we have no specific account of what happened b) it doesn't seem to have disgusted any of the house mates or changed their opinion of him which is strange and c) the only place you'll find people care about this is on BB forums, not one single website or tabloid has reported it which is also strange

This is the problem with not having livefeed...broken record....
I just watched Heaven on BBOT's again and there didn't seem to be any way you could misinterpret what she said.....but she didn't seem particularly bothered by it.....and did go on to say she liked him.....
From the H.L show's...I haven't noticed any animosity coming from the other housemates..in fact he's seemed popular...and yet, by anyone's standards that would cause revulsion......it's all......very puzzling....
As for the newspapers, I wouldn't think they could report it unless it had been confirmed...surely that could be libel

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Ammi

This is the problem with not having livefeed...broken record....
I just watched Heaven on BBOT's again and there didn't seem to be any way you could misinterpret what she said.....but she didn't seem particularly bothered by it.....and did go on to say she liked him.....
From the H.L show's...I haven't noticed any animosity coming from the other housemates..in fact he's seemed popular...and yet, by anyone's standards that would cause revulsion......it's all......very puzzling....
As for the newspapers, I wouldn't think they could report it unless it had been confirmed...surely that could be libel

It's never stopped them before

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Incensed

It's never stopped them before

.....I couldn't say tbh....I don't know for sure whether 'incidents' have been confirmed by them to the press or not..before they've been able to 'see' a lot more for themselves

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Ammi

This is the problem with not having livefeed...broken record....
I just watched Heaven on BBOT's again and there didn't seem to be any way you could misinterpret what she said.....but she didn't seem particularly bothered by it.....and did go on to say she liked him.....
From the H.L show's...I haven't noticed any animosity coming from the other housemates..in fact he's seemed popular...and yet, by anyone's standards that would cause revulsion......it's all......very puzzling....
As for the newspapers, I wouldn't think they could report it unless it had been confirmed...surely that could be libel

Plus it was a dare, so who ever initiated the dare would not be disgusted by it, showing they are just as bad really.

It would be interesting if anyone on twitter or facebook could ask the ex housemates on there why they weren't too disgusted by it, and who in the house was disgusted by it, who dared Jay to do it? and also why Jay wasn't nommed for stuff in there? I will be very interested in the replies, as I want to know if some tried to nom Jay but were told their reasons were not good enough, as I think it was Rebeccah who tried to nom him.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

This just proves to me that Jay is BB favourite this year & there wanting him to win, just cant believe they didn't remove him from the house.

[alex_front]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

This just proves to me that Jay is BB favourite this year & there wanting him to win, just cant believe they didn't remove him from the house.

Exactly, and his lack of real punishment for the White Chicks comments and his army of apologists on BBOTs. That incident took up about 5 mins of the show, whilst the rest of the show was dedicated to his Burger and Sausage task with Anton (since when has a task taken a whole show??)

I found it disgusting that he reacted to Harry's banana prank when he's pooed in a freezer.

He even rule broke today with message to Louise and has got away with it. He has openly discussed nominations with Aden so the producers have allowed the housemates to discuss nominations to prevent any flack.

If Jay murdered Aaron they would probably edit it out of the show and pretend Aaron choked on Alex's first ever boiled egg (the 'incident' would probably only make it on to the Channel 5 website - any not as a video clip, just a story)Jay would be given a task in which he wins beers for the house.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Suze

Plus it was a dare, so who ever initiated the dare would not be disgusted by it, showing they are just as bad really.

It would be interesting if anyone on twitter or facebook could ask the ex housemates on there why they weren't too disgusted by it, and who in the house was disgusted by it, who dared Jay to do it? and also why Jay wasn't nommed for stuff in there? I will be very interested in the replies, as I want to know if some tried to nom Jay but were told their reasons were not good enough, as I think it was Rebeccah who tried to nom him.

LOL Suze....was it a cover up...with loo roll......

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by angus58

Here we have a grown man of 27 years of age who talks in derogatory terms about women as if he were a teenager; has boasted of sixsomes; has boasted of fisting; has boasted about putting his face into a woman's vagina and letting the juices dry till they crack on his face; who farts indiscriminately with no decorum at all; who is spiteful, malicious and aggressive and threatened to beat Harry up in the diary room; and yet people are questioning whether this animal is capable of defecating in the freezer??? Never mind the confirmation of at least 3 housemates and a "no comment" from another.

No wonder Aaron is disgusted and repelled by this vile thug and he is entitled to be. Why the hell should he pretend to be friendly with him? If Jay doesn't like the silent treatment from Aaron, that's his problem - he knows where the door is.

.....and yet he seems to be popular with a lot of them.....what gives?

Originally Posted by MTVN

I thought that they might be able to just quote Heaven on BOTS though or say something like "Twitter/Facebook/etc. is awash with rumours about..." without actually claiming it was true but maybe not, I'm not really too sure how that sort of stuff works

....Yes, they could have said 'Heaven claims.....', I would have thought, it's very puzzling..and surely better for BB to clear it up...well I know they did and changed the freezer...you know what I mean....*digging a hole*

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Urgh, I wasn't saying that it was a joke or a story, merely pointing out the fact that a) we have no specific account of what happened b) it doesn't seem to have disgusted any of the house mates or changed their opinion of him which is strange and c) the only place you'll find people care about this is on BB forums, not one single website or tabloid has reported it which is also strange

Which is your view on the incident and it's subsequent affect on hms and viewers.

What the above doesn't quite answer is the question that several people have asked: ie: How many meanings can the question, "Is the Jay ****ting in the freezer true", have. You said it could mean anything - I think that's the part that myself and other posters have asked you: what more could such a question actually mean to you.