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Marsh. · 13-01-2012, 05:26 PM

Not to get into another debate with lostalex, but calling two women (Natasha and Nicola) sluts doesn't mean he's referring to the whole female gender as sluts, therefore stop harping on about sexism.
Just like Frankie Cocozza is a man-slut or whatever you want to call it. It's not sexist.
The same way having a Royal bloodline isn't racist, lol. But no matter.

Mystic Mock · 13-01-2012, 05:27 PM

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Roy Mars III · 13-01-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

Okay,. you do realize that black men had equal rights before women right? So obviously women are more discriminated against than black men. Somehow black men get portrayed as bigger victims though. It's bullsh!t though.

N!gger is no more offensive than slut, or fagg0t.

ok

michael21 · 13-01-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

It's weird how I like Natasha a lot more and she's done a lot worse than Nicola in terms of what she's famous for

it might be because Nicola has been a bit evil in the house

Niamh. · 13-01-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

It's weird how I like Natasha a lot more and she's done a lot worse than Nicola in terms of what she's famous for

Having an affair with your brother in law may be wrong and immoral but it doesn't mean she's not a likeable person either I suppose. Nicola, however is just a nasty person through and through, she can't even pretend to be nice for very long

Me. I Am Salman · 13-01-2012, 05:31 PM

Nicola is entertainment. she's the only one thats lived up to her reputation

Roy Mars III · 13-01-2012, 05:31 PM

Natasha is actually one of my favourites in there

lostalex · 13-01-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 08marsh

Not to get into another debate with lostalex, but calling two women (Natasha and Nicola) sluts doesn't mean he's referring to the whole female gender as sluts, therefore stop harping on about sexism.
Just like Frankie Cocozza is a man-slut or whatever you want to call it. It's not sexist.
The same way having a Royal bloodline isn't racist, lol. But no matter.

actually calling any woman a slut is painting the entire female gender. or maybe you think calling some black people N!ggers, that doesn't mean you are insulting all black people?? really? is that the chris rock argument? that there is a difference between n!ggers and black people?? there is a difference between women and sluts?? really?

this is the year 2012 isn't it? or is this 1912?

michael21 · 13-01-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Having an affair with your brother in law may be wrong and immoral but it doesn't mean she's not a likeable person either I suppose. Nicola, however is just a nasty person through and through, she can't even pretend to be nice for very long

that right and very

Niamh. · 13-01-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III

Natasha is actually one of my favourites in there

Yeah, I quite like her as well

Me. I Am Salman · 13-01-2012, 05:32 PM

Tell me, if Nicola goes, will Natasha be entertainment? NO!!!

Niamh. · 13-01-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman!

Tell me, if Nicola goes, will Natasha be entertainment? NO!!!

For me, I'd like to see Nicola go to see a change in the dynamics of the house, I feel she's poisoning the atmosphere in there right now.

InOne · 13-01-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Having an affair with your brother in law may be wrong and immoral but it doesn't mean she's not a likeable person either I suppose. Nicola, however is just a nasty person through and through, she can't even pretend to be nice for very long

Yeah, she'll become a bit boring after a while I think. She'll just be a bitter girl gang with Sonia and Denise. Thank god she's going tonight.

InOne · 13-01-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

actually calling any woman a slut is painting the entire female gender. or maybe you think calling some black people N!ggers, that doesn't mean you are insulting all black people?? really? is that the chris rock argument? that there is a difference between n!ggers and black people?? there is a difference between women and sluts?? really?

this is the year 2012 isn't it? or is this 1912?

Do you speak for all black people and women now? Get over yourself

Marsh. · 13-01-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

actually calling any woman a slut is painting the entire female gender. or maybe you think calling some black people N!ggers, that doesn't mean you are insulting all black people?? really? is that the chris rock argument? that there is a difference between n!ggers and black people?? there is a difference between women and sluts?? really?

this is the year 2012 isn't it? or is this 1912?

To me? A slut is a woman who "puts it about". Do all women put it about? No. Therefore not all women are sluts. A slut is a woman with very loose sexual morals. There are plenty women with morals.

Just like not all men are man*****s.

It's not in the slightest bit comparable to n*****, which is a word directed towards black people therefore it is insulting everyone with dark skin.

Black people ALL SHARE the attribute of having dark skin that the insult is referring to.
Women DO NOT SHARE the attribute of having loose sexual morals that the insult is referring to.

Mystic Mock · 13-01-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Having an affair with your brother in law may be wrong and immoral but it doesn't mean she's not a likeable person either I suppose. Nicola, however is just a nasty person through and through, she can't even pretend to be nice for very long

Do remember though Niamh,Natasha and Ryan Giggs covered up this affair for 8 years,imo this does not make them two look nice at all and I also think it takes a certain type of person to do that.

Where as with Nicola at least you know that she's a bitch and whatever problem's you have with her.

lostalex · 13-01-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Do you speak for all black people and women now? Get over yourself

get over myself? okay, well i'm not a woman nor black, so what exactly does anything i've said have to do with me? Absolutely nothing., so wtf are you talking about? What does "getting over myself" have anything to do with what i've said about racism or sexism??

InOne · 13-01-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

get over myself? okay, well i'm not a woman nor black, so what exactly does anything i've said have to do with me? Absolutely nothing., so wtf are you talking about? What does "getting over myself" have anything to do with what i've said about racism or sexism??

Your opinions are pretty out there and the people they actually apply to most likely wouldn't agree.

michael21 · 13-01-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

Do remember though Niamh,Natasha and Ryan Giggs covered up this affair for 8 years,imo this does not make them two look nice at all and I also think it takes a certain type of person to do that.

Where as with Nicola at least you know that she's a bitch and whatever problem's you have with her.

this is a good point a lot of people blame Natasha for what happen where as Ryan the male is not blame

michael21 · 13-01-2012, 05:43 PM

2nd Eviction

Nicola McLean 1/6
Natasha Giggs 7/2

Mystic Mock · 13-01-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by michael21

2nd Eviction

Nicola McLean 1/6
Natasha Giggs 7/2

It seems like I have got this one right then.

Niamh. · 13-01-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

Do remember though Niamh,Natasha and Ryan Giggs covered up this affair for 8 years,imo this does not make them two look nice at all and I also think it takes a certain type of person to do that.

Where as with Nicola at least you know that she's a bitch and whatever problem's you have with her.

Oh yeah, I'm not condoning what she did at all. But, she could still be a likeable, friendly person, I just wouldn't want to be married to someone like her!