[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Have to be honest, there was something very, I don't know...sadistic about splashing photos of a dead man over national newspapers and everybody cheering. It's still someone's death...it's not sad at all with regards to him, but, it doesn't feel morally right to be overly joyous at someone's death.

Agree, it was ******ing vile.
Even when Americans begun chanting and cheering when Osama was killed, I know he was a ***** and he 'ruined their lives' and such and they wanted him dead for years, but the way they went about acting like it was some fantastic party outside the white house was horrible.

At the end of the day, it's a human life and a death as you said.
I'm not saying they didn't have a right to be happy and over the moon about it, I mean the bloke deserved it completely. But they just made themselves look like tools chanting 'USA USA!' because a guy had been shot.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Agree, it was ******ing vile.
Even when Americans begun chanting and cheering when Osama was killed, I know he was a ***** and he 'ruined their lives' and such and they wanted him dead for years, but the way they went about acting like it was some fantastic party outside the white house was horrible.

At the end of the day, it's a human life and a death as you said.
I'm not saying they didn't have a right to be happy and over the moon about it, I mean the bloke deserved it completely. But they just made themselves look like tools chanting 'USA USA!' because a guy had been shot.

I agree with this. Watching them on the news that day made me feel a little sick.

There was no need for it at all.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by lostalex

again, yu havn't lived under a dictator, so wtf do you know about it??? nothing. you know NOTHING about it.

1) I never claimed I had
2) I'm still of the opinion that there is something slightly strange about cheering at the death of someone, regardless of what they did in their life
3) Will you ever calm down?

Originally Posted by Patrick

Agree, it was ******ing vile.
Even when Americans begun chanting and cheering when Osama was killed, I know he was a ***** and he 'ruined their lives' and such and they wanted him dead for years, but the way they went about acting like it was some fantastic party outside the white house was horrible.

At the end of the day, it's a human life and a death as you said.
I'm not saying they didn't have a right to be happy and over the moon about it, I mean the bloke deserved it completely. But they just made themselves look like tools chanting 'USA USA!' because a guy had been shot.

Yeah I agree, there's a whole odd feeling to it if you ask me. I'm not saying we should all mourn his death, but cheering? I don't know.

[Patrick]

No, but prisons need to be made tougher.

I think for crimes such as like the whole James Bulger thing or just pathetic and sick murders that really are disgusting, then the person should suffer ALOT more than someone who's in Jail for credit card fraud or something.

I think they should build an underground jail. Have different cells made out of thick bricks, and leave the person in their to rot - feeding them every so often.
None of this 'let them out for fresh air' or '3 meals a day' or 'lounge about on the playstation with the other inmates' bollocks.

Don't even put a toilet in the cell, just let them stay there until they eventually die.

[lostalex]

i still don't understand what point yu are making. The Man was a cartoon that abused and dominated generations of his own people, however they wanted to kill him is none of my concern, and it's none of yur concern eigther.

I'm pretty sure the French did some nasty stuff in their revolution too....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i still don't understand what point yu are making. The Man was a cartoon that abused and dominated generations of his own people, however they wanted to kill him is none of my concern, and it's none of yur concern eigther.

I'm pretty sure the French did some nasty stuff in their revolution too....

My point is that the manner in which he killed was disgusting, as was the subsequent reaction in a lot of the Western media and the ignoring of Rebel atrocities

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

My point is that the manner in which he killed was disgusting, as was the subsequent reaction in a lot of the Western media and the ignoring of Rebel atrocities

i agree it was disgusting, but i don't think it was wrong.

[Glenn.]

I don't agree with the Death Sentence at all but I do agree with what other people have said about prison life.

It needs to be made tougher. Your serving time for a crime, your not on holiday.

[lostalex]

and how many American's did you see burning any flags? ZERO. How many American's on that day did you hear chanting "Deatth to.." any country?? ZERO.

Did you see any American's that day hating anyone? or advocating violence? none, ZERO.

All you saw was American's celebrating not having to be AFRAID anymore.

That day showed the difference between Americans and the Arab World., because we came out and brought peace and happiness, NO violence, NO hate, no burning anyone else's flags, or chanting "death to..." we came out and celebrated being free from BIN LADENS TERROR.

shame on us i guess. shame on us.

[Glenn.]

You brought peace and happiness out through violence.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Glenn

You brought peace and happiness out through violence.

Yup, that's right, just like when we defeated Hitler, and Imperial Japan.

We Won., i know people like you don't like to see America Win! Sucks for you!

[MTVN]

Alright I think we should stick to the topic, lets not have another decent thread where there's actually been some good discussion get derailed

[lostalex]

srly Glenn, listen to MTVN plzzz.

[InOne]

It doesn't work. It only makes other people feel better about themselves. It doesn't help society as a whole.

[Glenn.]

[lostalex]

this silly idea of appeasement you still have, it would make Churchill turn in his grave.

[Glenn.]

Doesn't cheering someone's death make you as bad as the extremists?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Glenn

Doesn't cheering someone's death make you as bad as the extremists?

No. I can say quite confidently that WE are NOT as bad as THEM. I say that with ALL ABSOLUTION.

I'm absolutely sure of it.

[Roy Mars III]

I think people took the 'parties' too seriously. Most of them were just drunk college people who will basically find any excuse to party. They weren't people who were going to work at the office the next day. Most of them were just drunk 20 year olds.

[lostalex]

Oh look a pretty little yellow card at the bottom of my post, so am i meant to delete my post or what? i'm still not understanding what it means...is someone going to explain it to me?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Oh look a pretty little yellow card at the bottom of my post, so am i meant to delete my post or what? i'm still not understanding what it means...is someone going to explain it to me?

It means it's a warning to stop the bollocks and stick to the topic, like I said a few posts up

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It means it's a warning to stop the bollocks and stick to the topic, like I said a few posts up

opps, my bad, sometimes it's hard to tell when yur speaking as a mod, and when yur being a normal human being. forgive me for not being able to tell the difference.

did i actually break any rules though? cause i think i was kinda on topic for the conversation that was going on... was i actually breaking any rules? cause i'm a bit confused on that....

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

opps, my bad, sometimes it's hard to tell when yur speaking as a mod, and when yur being a normal human being. forgive me for not being able to tell the difference.

did i actually break any rules though? cause i think i was kinda on topic for the conversation that was going on... was i actually breaking any rules? cause i'm a bit confused on that....

Sorry I'll use this little guy in future

And Churchill and appeasement, or comparing Americans to Arabs doesn't have anything to do with the death penalty, you can go bump the Bin Laden thread or start a new one if you want to talk about that

[lostalex]

I still don't understand, but i know when someone is out for blood, so i'll just sign off for the day. peace and love! lol