[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

That's a pitfall of parenting imo. Eventually the clever little buggers cotton onto the fact that your threats are empty and don't behave.

Threatening to smack them and not doing isn't the answer but following through with threats has to be done, like grounding them or taking away a toy or not letting them watch TV for a while etc.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Threatening to smack them and not doing isn't the answer but following through with threats has to be done, like grounding them or taking away a toy or not letting them watch TV for a while etc.

Definitely.

[Z]

I was a little asshole until my younger brother was born, I've seen some of the video tapes my parents made, I honestly don't know how I didn't drive them to murdering me and burying me in the back garden I know they smacked me on occasion (and seriously, I've no idea how they only got pushed that far a couple of times) but evidently it worked - I stopped being a brat and that was that. Again, I don't know if it's something I could physically do but then I'm sure my parents thought the same before they had the child from hell

[Marc]

Dean knows I'm not picking a fight.

[InOne]

As long as it's not abuse I doubt it does them any harm. Toughens them up a bit, can't live in cotton wool land forever so may as well start early. Think of it as like training a dog.

[thesheriff443]

i got caned at school ali g style.

[Marsh.]

My god Ammi, how old are you? lol jk but you come across very erm... youthful.

Anyway, that's harsh. If I bumped my head my mum used to hit the door or table or whatever to stop me crying. lol

[Vicky.]

I guess if you smack your children, in a way its showing them violence is ok. Yes its a very watered down form of violence if its just a tap, but violence all the same.

Just been thinking about this actually...gavs oldest son and daughter were always well behaved and were never smacked. His youngest was/is a little terror and gets smacked quite a lot as he simply does not listen to anything his mother says. He has been in trouble at school quite a lot for hitting other kids. Now I dont know if thats because hes bad behaved in general, or because he thinks its ok to hit others because he gets hit himself (though hit is a bit strong...slight tap on the arse ) but its something to think about.

On the other hand his daugther has never been in trouble for violence. And his oldest has only once, when some other kid hit him so in defence he hit back and burst his nose They tried to give gavs son a detention for that and let the other kid off, because the kid who hit first bled, while gavs kid didnt. There was absolute hell on about that.

[LemonJam]

If the kids being an absolute cock, yeah

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

If the kids being an absolute cock, yeah

What a good way of joining the debate. lol

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What a good way of joining the debate. lol

i have a way with words.

[bbfan1991]

I got washing up liquid in my mouth treatment if I swore when growing up and soon learnt my lesson.

[Me. I Am Salman]

[mrlecturer]

Firm believer of strict discipline. Nothing wrong in that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by mrlecturer

Firm believer of strict discipline. Nothing wrong in that.

Seeing as everyones perception of strict discipline is different, thats a pretty broad spectrum.

[GypsyGoth]

I haven't watched this video of the child being beaten (and I don't intend to).

But regarding parents hitting children. I don't think it's right. However I guess I could understand why a parent might do it, like protecting their child against something that could hurt the child more.

[Jack_]

It's never right to smack a child.

Violence or any kind of physical abuse is totally wrong and as I've said in many threads, you need to try and get to a place where it's practically non-existent, and by smacking children, that to me just seems to teach a child that it's okay to be abusive or violent. What kind of a message is that? I also think it's morally wrong, nobody should be subject to any kind of physical abuse no matter what their age - it's one of, if not the worst kind of treatment anyone can receive.

At the end of the day if you can't control your child so much so that you have to resort to smacking them, you're not really that good a parent.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's never right to smack a child.

Violence or any kind of physical abuse is totally wrong and as I've said in many threads, you need to try and get to a place where it's practically non-existent, and by smacking children, that to me just seems to teach a child that it's okay to be abusive or violent. What kind of a message is that? I also think it's morally wrong, nobody should be subject to any kind of physical abuse no matter what their age - it's one of, if not the worst kind of treatment anyone can receive.

At the end of the day if you can't control your child so much so that you have to resort to smacking them, you're not really that good a parent.

Cheers kid, thanks for that

[GypsyGoth]

Jack isn't a kid.

[Jack_]

Oh and I forgot to add, in the same sense that if you have to resort to violence during an argument, you're obviously a lot less capable of controlling your temper and in a lot of cases, probably a lot less intelligent, I think it's sort of the same kind of thing here. That considering there's many forms of discipline that can be used, if you really do have to resort to physical discipline, something's not too great.

Originally Posted by kizzy

Cheers kid, thanks for that

No worries love

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Jack isn't a kid.

Thank you

[Marsh.]

I don't like the passive aggressive tone forming in here...

*leaves quietly*

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't like the passive aggressive tone forming in here...

*leaves quietly*

oi! wait for me...

[LemonJam]

it'd be interesting to see who was hit and who wasn't and see if there's a correlation as to whether they agree with it or not... but I wouldn't want to raid into peoples privacy or anything. idk. i feel awkward posting this. ama post it anyway.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

it'd be interesting to see who was hit and who wasn't and see if there's a correlation as to whether they agree with it or not... but I wouldn't want to raid into peoples privacy or anything. idk. i feel awkward posting this. ama post it anyway.

Hi... I'm 08marsh... and I'm a victim of smack via slipper.

[lostalex]

i can remember only 3 instances where my parents used phsyical violence(spanking) as a form of discipline, and it was definitely wrong. Talking to friends later in life i found out that they had much more physical violence (spanking) in their households.

Any physical violence is always unacceptable. But it is ESPECIALLY unacceptable when the violence is directed at someone who is at a physical disadvantage and/or has no means of defense.

hitting a child is no different than abusing an old person in a care home, or disabled people.