Originally Posted by arista

We do not need it
as we have FoxNews live now


No way would they do a UK version.

Arista. Fox news is an appalling channel. If I link you to a documentary about them, would you watch it?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

My point was aimed at your statement that abolishing the license fee is a big part of your emphasis. You can't have too many areas for such things as you'll spread yourself too thinly, and achieve nothing. I find it astounding that this is a consideration in political life.

It's a populist idea. The problem, is that once this was done, there is no way to change it back. So let's see how people are when all that is shown on the BBC is Towie.

It's so short sighted, and you'll probably realise this as you get older. Sun headline populism doesn't make great politics.

Politicians have to deal with the really major and less major issues all the time, all their political life, this as I said is a thread as to the TV licence and the BBC, I have devoted time to stating my view on that,which you, as is your right disagree with.
It would not take all my time every day, it would always be one of my targets though.
From all the people I know and who I have talked to as to the TV licence, very few want to keep it.
It is however also a political issue because it is the 'politicians' via a 'govt' who would have to agree to discuss it and then likely vote on it to abolish the TV licence before it could be,for sure as Christmas comes every year the BBC are never going to give it up voluntarily.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Arista. Fox news is an appalling channel. If I link you to a documentary about them, would you watch it?

Do not need it
seen them all.



Yes I watch it
it is Funny.

I also watch RT. Alyona show
as she takes the Piss of Fox and CNN.




Life In The Fast Lane.

[Kizzy]

News is not meant to be funny arista....Thats why we have comedy.

Originally Posted by arista

Do not need it
seen them all.



Yes I watch it
it is Funny.

I also watch RT. Alyona show
as she takes the Piss of Fox and CNN.




Life In The Fast Lane.

Do you like Jon Gaunt?

[Shaun]

Generally hold them in extremely high regard. Their news reporting is, for the most part, neutral and informative and without extremity or fearmongering (ITV, Sky, Fox...). Their programming is generally excellent too - there's a whole range of programmes I could complain about and often do (the majority of BBC3 shows, the soaps and all of the daytime antique crap).

I don't like the idea of paying towards the judges on the Voice but it's such a negligible amount and the available good-quality programmes sort of makes up for it. If you think about all of the Sir David Attenborough documentaries, uncountable comedy classics and their world coverage they're a far more valuable broadcaster than the others.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kizzy

News is not meant to be funny arista....Thats why we have comedy.

I agree
But Bill O' Reilly geting angry
is so funny.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Do you like Jon Gaunt?

No

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Politicians have to deal with the really major and less major issues all the time, all their political life, this as I said is a thread as to the TV licence and the BBC, I have devoted time to stating my view on that,which you, as is your right disagree with.
It would not take all my time every day, it would always be one of my targets though.
From all the people I know and who I have talked to as to the TV licence, very few want to keep it.
It is however also a political issue because it is the 'politicians' via a 'govt' who would have to agree to discuss it and then likely vote on it to abolish the TV licence before it could be,for sure as Christmas comes every year the BBC are never going to give it up voluntarily.

Just jumping in here to say, from this post, you sound very naive. Obviously entitled to your opinion but this post screams of "if only it were a perfect world".

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

This and your other post on here Jack is (believe it or not) - one of the reasons I do like you as a poster.

You have many intelligent views and thoughts - some I don't necessarily agree with, but many (more than you think) - that I do agree with - and once again, your comments in this thread fall into the ''I most definitely agree with you'' on.

Well said.

Well, I am a little surprised I have to admit, but thank you

Originally Posted by arista

We do not need it
as we have FoxNews live now


No way would they do a UK version.

Good. Let's keep it that way, eh?

Originally Posted by kizzy

All media inflences one way or another...choosing which news items to run with, the angle from which they are reported...This is not done soley by commercial stations.

I know that, but some are more balanced than others, and the BBC is most definitely one of them.

[Kazanne]

I don't watch BBC very often,the only thing I watch continually on it is Eastenders,so I begrudge paying that amount of licence for something I do not use a lot,Adverts DO annoy me sometimes,but some of them are quite entertaining so I don't mind them too much,imo ITV dramas etc are far superior to BBCs at the moment.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Just jumping in here to say, from this post, you sound very naive. Obviously entitled to your opinion but this post screams of "if only it were a perfect world".

That is all you have to say on the subject then, to say I sound naive,with respect 'you' don't know me or 'what' my efforts are in many areas of life.

Who wouldn't want a perfect world,however the OP asked for peoples opinions on the BBC and the licence fee, I have stated mine very clearly, if all you have to say is that I sound naive then so be it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

I agree
But Bill O' Reilly geting angry
is so funny.

It's not his job to be funny though is it?...He is there to deliver the news in an impartial manner not squark his half baked ideals....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

That is all you have to say on the subject then, to say I sound naive,with respect 'you' don't know me or 'what' my efforts are in many areas of life.

Who wouldn't want a perfect world,however the OP asked for peoples opinions on the BBC and the licence fee, I have stated mine very clearly, if all you have to say is that I sound naive then so be it.

I never claimed to "know you". I said your post sounds very naive. Which it does.

I'm not saying no one wants a perfect world, but sitting comfortably saying "I will do this, I will do that" as though it's that simple is quite simply silly.

Can a mod remove this if it's deemed not serious enough. Thanks.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You don't currently have to pay yourself though. In effect, you are complaining about something that does not affect you, that has no impact upon you.

You are complaining of behalf of others that are affected?

Care homes do not have to pay for every single room. That may be down to the person to whom owns the TV set - it depends on the size of carehome, how many tvs are there etc... whether it is considered a business or not.

I'm not entirely sure Joey that this is one that you perhaps are aware of the ins and outs of.

Students, lodgers, tenents, owners of 2nd homes, etc: don't pay the same rates: if at all.

Pyramid. with respect, I know about the TV Licence,I and a group of students have over the last 6 months taken up helping people who have problems with TV LIcensing, I am fully aware the licence is for an address not every room, hence my point that multi millionaires can have a TV in every room in their massive places still for the same fee as someone who is 65 on a state pension with a TV in one room.
I am aware of that.
I also stated if you read carefully, that I said I paid as part of a group of us who share a house while at UNi, I may not pay the full fee myslef but I do pay it and when I am on my own after leaving Uni and home, I will have to pay the full fee too and will begrudge every single penny of it too.
What though does it matter whether even if I had to pay it yet or not, I would still be entitiled to having a view on it and help others who have concerns as to it.

I assure you I know the ins and out of this issue, I have battled as to the Licence fee from aged 15,I think it is ridiculous.

I do have to say I am surprised at your personal comment as to my lack of knowledge of this issue,I rarely get so deeply involved in issues I know little about, I never said care homes had to pay for every TV, I said they would still have to pay a Licence fee, I know they do because on of my Aunts is in a care home and they said they had to, not obviously for every residents room but for an address.
Tenants renting a room from a landlord will live at addresses where the landlord has paid the licence fee so TVs can be watched on the premises, I do research things you know.
All addresses that have a TV have to have a TV licence, that is the law.there is not much else to know as to having a TV licence than that.

A licence fee for an adrdress doesn't have to be in anyones name that even lives there as long as there is a licence for the address, regardless of how many TVs are there.
I think I know far more than you give me credit for as to this issue and I am massively surprised at that too.

[Kizzy]

I thought it did have the name of the hoseholder on?...I dont know i dont have one.....hehehe

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I thought it did have the name of the hoseholder on?...I dont know i dont have one.....hehehe

It does if you buy it, say though if you had someone who lived with you and they bought the licence, if they died or left but didn't want the licence you would be validly covered until the licence expired.

The main thing is to have a licence for the 'address',obviously since you live there,yours would be in your name, but equally someone staying with you could buy the licence in their name for the address and it still be fully valid.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Pyramid. with respect, I know about the TV Licence,I and a group of students have over the last 6 months taken up helping people who have problems with TV LIcensing, I am fully aware the licence is for an address not every room, hence my point that multi millionaires can have a TV in every room in their massive places still for the same fee as someone who is 65 on a state pension with a TV in one room.
I am aware of that.
I also stated if you read carefully, that I said I paid as part of a group of us who share a house while at UNi, I may not pay the full fee myslef but I do pay it and when I am on my own after leaving Uni and home, I will have to pay the full fee too and will begrudge every single penny of it too.
What though does it matter whether even if I had to pay it yet or not, I would still be entitiled to having a view on it and help others who have concerns as to it.

I assure you I know the ins and out of this issue, I have battled as to the Licence fee from aged 15,I think it is ridiculous.

I do have to say I am surprised at your personal comment as to my lack of knowledge of this issue,I rarely get so deeply involved in issues I know little about, I never said care homes had to pay for every TV, I said they would still have to pay a Licence fee, I know they do because on of my Aunts is in a care home and they said they had to, not obviously for every residents room but for an address.
Tenants renting a room from a landlord will live at addresses where the landlord has paid the licence fee so TVs can be watched on the premises, I do research things you know.
All addresses that have a TV have to have a TV licence, that is the law.there is not much else to know as to having a TV licence than that.

A licence fee for an adrdress doesn't have to be in anyones name that even lives there as long as there is a licence for the address, regardless of how many TVs are there.
I think I know far more than you give me credit for as to this issue and I am massively surprised at that too.

I think you are taking anything I have said way too personally - my comments are correct and valid.

With all respect: until you are liable to pay - and decide not to, and decide to make that illegal judgement on refuse to pay: and take your chance on being caught: I do think that it's somewhat unrealistic to have such a judgment on something that simply does not currently affect you personally, having an opinion on something is all fine and well - when you are not in the real life position of making a choice that may very well lead to you have a criminal conviction.

Let's zoom forward a few years when you are living in your own place.

Will you be paying your TV licence?

[DigitalSid]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Live in Kenya
but they played recorded film more than Live
Costing to much,
wasting my Tax Fee.

If you're on about Planet Earth Live, if they had have recorded the animals live you'd not have seen much, animals don't mate or hunt on demand. It takes 5 years to film things like Planet Earth, they were never going to be able to show us anything worth watching if it was all filmed live. Just Lions sleeping and Bears scratching themselves. It was called Planet Earth Live because the information and updates on the animals we were given on the show were the situation as it was when the programme was on, rather than when it was recorded 5 years ago like Planet Earth. The clips weren't live but the information and updates were.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think you are taking anything I have said way too personally - my comments are correct and valid.

With all respect: until you are liable to pay - and decide not to, and decide to make that illegal judgement on refuse to pay: and take your chance on being caught: I do think that it's somewhat unrealistic to have such a judgment on something that simply does not currently affect you personally, having an opinion on something is all fine and well - when you are not in the real life position of making a choice that may very well lead to you have a criminal conviction.

Let's zoom forward a few years when you are living in your own place.

Will you be paying your TV licence?

What,I'm 20 years old,I live with other people in a house that wasn't covered by a valid TV licence so I contribute to that licence as do the others.

People have judgements and views on all sorts of issues that don't happen to them but I do pay part of the fee, not all, as there are 4 of us.

How am I not in the real life position of paying for a TV licence and how would that in any case negate my view of the TV licence.

I shouldn't have to answer this but yes,when I live in my own house I will pay the Licence if it still exists then in full.
I wish I had the courage not to but I will do so.

This thread is about what people thought of the BBC and the TV Licence fee.
Only one person has said they don't pay it,that is up to them.
I think most of your comments are valid but to assume and attempt to belittle me as to my knowledge on this matter,when clearly I know plenty and also as to whether I should even have a view as to paying it or not are certainly not valid comments and I take issue with them definately.

[Kizzy]

My brother doesen't either, but he does not have a TV he watches 4OD and BBC iplayer all the time though...

[Kate!]

Just caught up on this thread, been out all day, very interesting reading, good to read all the points if view.

I stand by my principles still and will continue to not pay the licence fee. In response to an earlier comment, I forget who by, if everyone did take my stance it would be a good thing, as it would effectively force a long overdue change and also prove that there are alternatives, not just having adverts either.

[Kate!]

Just caught up on this thread, been out all day, very interesting reading, good to read all the points if view.

I stand by my principles still and will continue to not pay the licence fee. In response to an earlier comment, I forget who by, if everyone did take my stance it would be a good thing, as it would effectively force a long overdue change and also prove that there are alternatives, not just having adverts either.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Just caught up on this thread, been out all day, very interesting reading, good to read all the points if view.

I stand by my principles still and will continue to not pay the licence fee. In response to an earlier comment, I forget who by, if everyone did take my stance it would be a good thing, as it would effectively force a long overdue change and also prove that there are alternatives, not just having adverts either.

If everyone took your stance over all things that we have to pay, but don't agree with, the country would be in a hell of a state.

Suffice to say: those who don't pay their tv licence but continue to watch and use the services - are on par with those who cheat the benefits system and all other such things.

Sorry if you find that sore Kate - but it is illegal - and is a criminal offence regardless of how you view it. (pun intended... )