[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No need to resort to condescension.
My whole point was I don't believe your context is or could be valid, Jemima was having a conversation with Micheal and Gina interjected.
After being falsely accused Jemima was on the defensive and rather flustered therefore her wording was misconstrued in my opinion, you may disagree but that is how I viewed the incident.

Condescension? Who me? I humbly appreciate the opportunity to debate. With anyone.
Gina interjected and Jemima responded with racist comments. I don't remember Gina reaching into Jemima's mouth to elicit these comments. So I continue to firmly disagree in blaming the victim.
At the risk of boring everyone else but with ver kind regards,I'll respectfully discontinue addressing reason to you on this thread.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Interesting. That's a very limited interpretation of their conversation reversed.
I haven't the slightest belief that most feigning outrage at Jemima's warning disliked Gina from the off.
The reverse could have gone on thus:-
I generally go for lighter guys not white, North African or light African American. I like lighter guys but not white. .......... You PROBABLY wouldn't go for a black guy
All said to the only white girl in a black house who Gina would have been guilty of targeting for no other reason than the loudest girl in the house had already picked her out.

I had no feelings either way for either of them from the off, so I don't know what you're implying with your silly emoticon and your "feigning" implication, so spit it out if you've got something to say. For the record, I didn't like Jemima from the off, and I still don't.

All the rest of your post is pure conjecture. You can say the same old thing in as many different ways as you like, the fact is that the majority of people on this forum - and we have a few races and colours and backgrounds on here - think that what Gina did was cynical and wrong. You turning the whole thing around to a case of semantics isn't going to make anyone change their mind about what they saw. Yes, she could have phrased it differently. Shoulda, woulda, coulda... get over it.

[armand.kay]

Urgh can people just get over it

[Livia]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Urgh can people just get over it

Discussion forum. For discussion. You're not compelled to join in.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Livia

Discussion forum. For discussion. You're not compelled to join in.

I'm talking about the people complaining to ofcom.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Condescension? Who me? I humbly appreciate the opportunity to debate. With anyone.
Gina interjected and Jemima responded with racist comments. I don't remember Gina reaching into Jemima's mouth to elicit these comments. So I continue to firmly disagree in blaming the victim.
At the risk of boring everyone else but with ver kind regards,I'll respectfully discontinue addressing reason to you on this thread.

[pcro]

I'm wondering whether Ofcom ever gets a complaint from a non-lunatic.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I'm talking about the people complaining to ofcom.

Apologies armand, I misunderstood.

[Tulin]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Agreed.

Personally I find left-wing loonies just as bad as extreme right-wing nutjobs.

It's the same kind of insanity, just at the opposite end of the spectrum.

[Fish_Fingers]

Originally Posted by Tulin

Agreed.

Personally I find left-wing loonies just as bad as extreme right-wing nutjobs.

It's the same kind of insanity, just at the opposite end of the spectrum.

Extreme left, extreme right. Very little difference when examined closely.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Livia

Apologies armand, I misunderstood.

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

I had no feelings either way for either of them from the off, so I don't know what you're implying with your silly emoticon and your "feigning" implication, so spit it out if you've got something to say. For the record, I didn't like Jemima from the off, and I still don't.

All the rest of your post is pure conjecture. You can say the same old thing in as many different ways as you like, the fact is that the majority of people on this forum - and we have a few races and colours and backgrounds on here - think that what Gina did was cynical and wrong. You turning the whole thing around to a case of semantics isn't going to make anyone change their mind about what they saw. Yes, she could have phrased it differently. Shoulda, woulda, coulda... get over it.

Because you had sided with a majority it does not follow that you are right. Regardless of the racial mixture of that majority. The demographic which you don't actually know.
If you don't know what I'm implying with the "silly" emoticon you can focus harder.
I do not spit things out I say them politely. You do not think or speak for everyone on this board and I remain entitled to speak my mind. Even though you've tried to silence me before.
You may continue to speculate as to how my argument affects the minds of others but in reality you don't know what's in the mind of every poster or reader of this board. So you get over it! Stop trying to control

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Because you had sided with a majority it does not follow that you are right. Regardless of the racial mixture of that majority. The demographic which you don't actually know.
If you don't know what I'm implying with the "silly" emoticon you can focus harder.
I do not spit things out I say them politely. You do not think or speak for everyone on this board and I remain entitled to speak my mind. Even though you've tried to silence me before.
You may continue to speculate as to how my argument affects the minds of others but in reality you don't know what's in the mind of every poster or reader of this board. So you get over it! Stop trying to control

I have no need to focus on on emoticons because I mostly converse with people who can express themselves beautifully without them. You were trying to imply something... you still haven't got around to it, so I'll let it go.

How have I tried to silence you? You're on a Big Brother forum on the Internet. Get some perspective.

Actually, I do know what's in the minds of a lot of the posters on this board, because they've said so in their posts. I'm not guessing. I don't have to.

I wasn't asking you to get over it, I was suggesting Gina get over it. You obviously will never get over it.

[HD]

I could never imagine ringing OfCom and complaining... I'd feel slightly stupid :S

I just imagine all OfCom fangals to be like that happybbfan on Digital Spy.

[Ellen]

I would not call Ofcom but i do think BB was out of order giving her a warning, she did nothing wrong.

[Samm]

What is the point in ofcom anyway

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have no need to focus on on emoticons because I mostly converse with people who can express themselves beautifully without them. You were trying to imply something... you still haven't got around to it, so I'll let it go.

How have I tried to silence you? You're on a Big Brother forum on the Internet. Get some perspective.

Actually, I do know what's in the minds of a lot of the posters on this board, because they've said so in their posts. I'm not guessing. I don't have to.

I wasn't asking you to get over it, I was suggesting Gina get over it. You obviously will never get over it.

Yes, focus is required here as you still can't fathom its meaning. But the you're letting that one go. Thanks.
Yes it goes blurry if you stare too long. I was terrified you would be able to decipher the symbol and be outraged. There I go again communicating with primitive symbols rather than the written word. Too complex for you though.
I was suggesting that you don't know whose mind my post would change. But it would seem you do. Good trick that and also miraculous. Hold on another symbol coming. Concentrate
My perspective remains reasonable yours irritable, controlling and over bearing .... honey I may never get over racism, but I'm so over you.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

Yes, focus is required here as you still can't fathom its meaning. But the you're letting that one go. Thanks.
Yes it goes blurry if you stare too long. I was terrified you would be able to decipher the symbol and be outraged. There I go again communicating with primitive symbols rather than the written word. Too complex for you though.
I was suggesting that you don't know whose mind my post would change. But it would seem you do. Good trick that and also miraculous. Hold on another symbol coming. Concentrate
My perspective remains reasonable yours irritable, controlling and over bearing .... honey I may never get over racism, but I'm so over you.

I have no freakin' clue what you're rambling on about.

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have no freakin' clue what you're rambling on about.

!

[Kizzy]

[Rob!]

Poor channel 5 just can't win can they?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

Poor channel 5 just can't win can they?

Nope.

[King Gizzard]

Just telling her to be careful would have sufficed

[Marcus.]

dammed if they do dammed if they don't

[Patrick]

Quite funny - how the shoe's on the other foot now

In 2007 they were flooded with complaints urging Big Brother to deal with the issue of Jade being a racist - and now in 2013, they're getting told to make Big Brother apologize

It'd be quite brilliant though if BB had to call Jemima into the Diary Room and said sorry, and perhaps rewarded her with a little fruit basket and some massage oils.

Would be the first time Big Brother has ever admitted to being wrong.