[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Even more disgusting that people try to bring up the sex allegations Jim was accused of

I agree. Some people talk about him like he's a criminal. We all have a past and we all make mistakes. Some bigger than others.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Even more disgusting that people try to bring up the sex allegations Jim was accused of

Jim brought up someone else's past so his past is COMPLETELY fair game

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Just on a factual point, has Jim ever been convicted of a crime of violence?

If not we should really use the term "allegedly" when taking about this.

No he hasn't, most of it comes from his autobiography where he made references to how him and his wife were both violent towards each other and from a tabloid story from his former wife where she made some more serious allegations but it never went further than that

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MTVN

No he hasn't, most of it comes from his autobiography where he made references to how him and his wife were both violent towards each other and from a tabloid story from his former wife where she made some more serious allegations but it never went further than that

Great point MTVN IF Jim hadn't have brought this up himself no one would have been any the wiser and whos to say the wife didn't exaggerate things,she wouldn't be the first,if not her the paper certainly would add bits here and there.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Just on a factual point, has Jim ever been convicted of a crime of violence?

If not we should really use the term "allegedly" when taking about this.

No but he has admitted to violently attacking his ex wife in his autobiography.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by MrWong

No but he has admitted to violently attacking his ex wife in his autobiography.

Wise up, it sells books, that's all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wise up, it sells books, that's all.

And you said I talk rubbish.

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Wise up, it sells books, that's all.

I support Jim but that is BS, why would he potentially tarnish his views to thousands by admitting to it, it could potentially ruin him in the eyes of many it wouldnt be worth it for the money earned

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by jet

And you said I talk rubbish.

Originally Posted by Munchkins

I support Jim but that is BS, why would he potentially tarnish his views to thousands by admitting to it, it could potentially ruin him in the eyes of many it wouldnt be worth it for the money earned

Sampvt would make a ****ing lousy publicist.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by MrWong

No but he has admitted to violently attacking his ex wife in his autobiography.

Yeah, yeah.. so you keep saying. It's hardly relevant to this issue. Linda knew him, has seen him at his worst, and has no doubt heard every story about him. If she believed he was a violent bullying sex pervert, she wouldn't have agreed to enter the house with him and wouldn't have agreed to share a bed while handcuffed to him.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Yeah, yeah.. so you keep saying. It's hardly relevant to this issue. Linda knew him, has seen him at his worst, and has no doubt heard every story about him. If she believed he was a violent bullying sex pervert, she wouldn't have agreed to enter the house with him and wouldn't have agreed to share a bed while handcuffed to him.

What are you on about?

A poster asked if Jim had been convicted of a violent offence and i replied that he hadn't, he'd admitted to violence in his book.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by MrWong

No but he has admitted to violently attacking his ex wife in his autobiography.

And his ex wife violently attacked him too... Jim was never charged of anything either, his wife didn't even press charges...

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by MrWong

What are you on about?

A poster asked if Jim had been convicted of a violent offence and i replied that he hadn't, he'd admitted to violence in his book.

Sorry Mr. Wong.. only the first part was in response to your comments about wife-beating. The rest was just a general comment on the various issues which have been raised in this thread by other posters. I should have put it into a new paragraph and made my meaning more clear.

[sampvt]

The problem here is that men are expected to suck it up and women are protected with kid gloves, especially on this program. Ask yourself this, if Jim was to act like Luisa when he was drunk and performed sex acts like she has, what would happen......exactly.....he would be toast so why or how can she get away with it. Similarly if Jim had have hounded Linda like she has him, he would be arrested as a sex pest or stalker.

Please don't tell me men and women are equal on this show, its simply not true.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The problem here is that men are expected to suck it up and women are protected with kid gloves, especially on this program. Ask yourself this, if Jim was to act like Luisa when he was drunk and performed sex acts like she has, what would happen......exactly.....he would be toast so why or how can she get away with it. Similarly if Jim had have hounded Linda like she has him, he would be arrested as a sex pest or stalker.

Please don't tell me men and women are equal on this show, its simply not true.

I agree. You're right. Just like what happened with Denise and Michael.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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