[armand.kay]

Jale is a lame bitch I'm over her I'm not gonna support a victim for a whole season. I'm voting to evict her next week if she's still this weak.

[jet]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Jale is a lame bitch I'm over her I'm not gonna support a victim for a whole season. I'm voting to evict her next week if she's still this weak.

Ohhhh, playing the big controversial man.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by jet

Ohhhh, playing the big controversial man.

Ok.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Jale is a lame bitch I'm over her I'm not gonna support a victim for a whole season. I'm voting to evict her next week if she's still this weak.

I bet Jale would be devastated to discover you're not supporting her! Just lucky for her that a lot of people are supporting her i guess!
There's fake virgins for you to be supporting anyway.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by JTM45

I bet Jale would be devastated to discover you're not supporting her! Just lucky for her that a lot of people are supporting her i guess!

I was just giving my opinion on the topic. I'm sure jale doesn't give a **** about this entire forum but that won't stop you posting. What exactly was your point?

There's fake virgins for you to be supporting anyway.

At least she didn't spend the entire first week talking about how she's feisty and how tough she is then when people started on her she let people walk all over her.

[Kizzy]

I want her to snap, her sis said she has a temper let's see it!

[BigBuk]

No, she should let Helen continue to show herself up, easier said that done.

I see other people saying Jale might explode soon but I doubt it, she's lated this long, the more she stays quiet the more Helen looks like a bully, which she is regardless if Jale were to fight back.

[Rob!]

Helen is absolutely vile, I can't stand her. Jale needs to stand up and say something loud rude and insulting to her.

[Lola844]

If she doesn't say something Helen might stop, it would be like beating a dead horse. Now if she does stand up to her, I don't think anyone will interfere.
I think Jale is a little scared that the insults might become more hurtful. Like her targeting her weight or something like that. She might not be able to come back at her with something which would hurt her equally as much.

Jale knows what she's doing, it's called being passive aggressive. It will work to her advantage. Now if it had been me, I would have been kicked out for kicking her in the face.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lola844

If she doesn't say something Helen might stop, it would be like beating a dead horse. Now if she does stand up to her, I don't think anyone will interfere.
I think Jale is a little scared that the insults might become more hurtful. Like her targeting her weight or something like that. She might not be able to come back at her with something which would hurt her equally as much.

Jale knows what she's doing, it's called being passive aggressive. It will work to her advantage. Now if it had been me, I would have been kicked out for kicking her in the face.

And also, she did try that with Pauline, she tried to sit down with her and talk it out calmly and look how well that worked out for her

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lola844

If she doesn't say something Helen might stop, it would be like beating a dead horse. Now if she does stand up to her, I don't think anyone will interfere.
I think Jale is a little scared that the insults might become more hurtful. Like her targeting her weight or something like that. She might not be able to come back at her with something which would hurt her equally as much.

Jale knows what she's doing, it's called being passive aggressive. It will work to her advantage. Now if it had been me, I would have been kicked out for kicking her in the face.

If she did take Helen aside and told her, and Helen continued her nasty campaign it would give Jale even more of an advantage, Jale's problem is if Helen took her comments on board and actually did lay off she loses her underdog status and associated public support.

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If she did take Helen aside and told her, and Helen continued her nasty campaign it would give Jale even more of an advantage, Jale's problem is if Helen took her comments on board and actually did lay off she loses her underdog status and associated public support.

I think she might be scared of Helen. So far most people have laughed at her comments, so she might be scared her looks are brought into the mix. I do think she is using it to her advantage. But frankly I don't think she's as tough as she says she is. It's all talk.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Lola844

I think she might be scared of Helen. So far most people have laughed at her comments, so she might be scared her looks are brought into the mix. I do think she is using it to her advantage. But frankly I don't think she's as tough as she says she is. It's all talk.

Well her looks have already been brought into it, do you think if she was Kims size, her nickname would still be Slugsworth? Ash laughing his head off last night at Helens disgusting rant about Jale was almost as bad as well

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well her looks have already been brought into it, do you think if she was Kims size, her nickname would still be Slugsworth? Ash laughing his head off last night at Helens disgusting rant about Jale was almost as bad as well

Those are bad insults, but I bet Helen could get nastier. So I would understand if she didn't want to have a screaming match with someone calling her fat b**** like she called Danielle. Jale might not recover from it. Trust me.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well her looks have already been brought into it, do you think if she was Kims size, her nickname would still be Slugsworth? Ash laughing his head off last night at Helens disgusting rant about Jale was almost as bad as well

Kim really let me down too. She just walked past Jale & went into the garden as they were calling her names. I liked Kim until that point.
Ash is such a twat. How old is he ?, he just laughs like a child at everything Helen say's. Awful.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Lola844

I think she might be scared of Helen. So far most people have laughed at her comments, so she might be scared her looks are brought into the mix. I do think she is using it to her advantage. But frankly I don't think she's as tough as she says she is. It's all talk.

I do, she is not isolated in the house, the only one's being truly horrible to her are Pauline, Helen and Toya. The whole house is not against her, I really can't fathom her popularity on here as she has actually not done anything in the house apart from being the focus of Helen's nastiness so I guess that is why she is popular

I liked her for the way she handled herself during the killer nom process but since can't really see that she or indeed any of them have done anything to warrant winning.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If she did take Helen aside and told her, and Helen continued her nasty campaign it would give Jale even more of an advantage, Jale's problem is if Helen took her comments on board and actually did lay off she loses her underdog status and associated public support.

Do you really think Jale is thinking like that right now? I don't know, it must be deeply uncomfortable in there for her, surely she'd rather be having an enjoyable time in the house?

[InOne]

Her and Helen have already had a talk. Helen apologised and then changed her mind and it just carried on.

[Alf]

Your Silence is deafening

What a tune

Youtube video

[smeagol]

you dont talk rationally to people like helen. the only way to deal with her is to bring her down from the level she things she is at. and you start that by saying who the hell do you think you are then lay down the home truths to her. she will then either do 2 things get ejected or retreat either way you win.

in all bb's since the beginning i have never ever seen someone not stand up for themselves. even the most timid of people have had a go back the types who its not even in their nature to confront, yet jale says nothing ,cept to the cameras. says it all really

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smeagol

you dont talk rationally to people like helen. the only way to deal with her is to bring her down from the level she things she is at. and you start that by saying who the hell do you think you are then lay down the home truths to her. she will then either do 2 things get ejected or retreat either way you win.

in all bb's since the beginning i have never ever seen someone not stand up for themselves. even the most timid of people have had a go back the types who its not even in their nature to confront, yet jale says nothing ,cept to the cameras. says it all really

Or Jale could not stoop to their level and just keep on as she is,which is by far the more adult way.

[Niamh.]

Good post Kefln, spot on i think. Mark is the only one with enough "status" in there to help Jale out, he may do as well, he seems to be swaying a little bit

[LukeB]

i voted yes because she either playing victim by letting them do it or she is a weak girl. her VT comes across as she can stand up for herself. don't we get told to stand up to bullies and they go away? maybe jale should take that advice

[Livia]

It would probably end up in a slanging match and Jale probably does want to come across as a common, foul-mouthed fish-wife like Helen.

[Kizzy]

I think the dynamic will change loads after friday when pauline goes (please god), the whole house will breath a collective sigh of relief.