[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

wrong. i didnt say embrace him for being a legend. they never even gave the legend time , to have a chance to get to talk to them properly with respect , to listen to each other and enjoy and share stories and experiences. his life and his stories are beyond fascinating. hes a captivating chap , but the petty nasty ignorant jealous impatient greedy bullies coudlnt bare to give him a genuine chance. they wanted to detsroy him from the start. such is their own envy and bitter insecurities. to think of the vile evil bully james, an arrogant abusive scumbag, to try and label gary an arrogant hollywood asshole is a sick joke. they never even gave gary a chance. what a wasted opportunity to learn and grow and connect and communicate with such a remarkable human being, sad losers.

[mary poppins]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

[mary poppins]

Originally Posted by mary poppins

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

sorry that was meant for The Truth...Sincere apologies

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by mary poppins

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

Based upon all your ridiculous views, it's you who needs to get a grip - on reality. :shrug :

[Niamh.]

They're just jealous that he's a genuine star and most of that lot are just Reality "stars"

[Fosse]

Dee is a lacuna - there's nothing there.

[Tip]

I wish it had been Al Pacino or Robert De Niro!.

No offence to Gary, who's apparently doing the reality show circuit for his charity - but yes, I probably wouldn't exactly have embraced him either seeing as I now switch off the tv when he starts speaking for any length of time.

[Robodog]

Gary talks constantly about peace, love, truth etc with lots of other wild and interesting stories.

All James and Dee talk about is themselves - or how 'bad' Gary and Audley are.

No competition.

GARY 2 WIN - KEEP VOTING GUYS ! !

[Jules2]

For me I honestly think that they were told about the brain issue, they knew about the deafness and they knew his age. Now had they all just treated him as one of them and worked out the issues with him on equal terms, it would have been a different story. They deemed him as a lesser person than them, someone not worthy of their consideration. Also he is an american so they may think that the programme belongs to them and them alone.

As Gary told them, he left everything behind him when he came into the house, he wanted to be considered as one of them but it wasnt meant to be. Audley has been the most genuine one looking out for him as a friend. James sadly appeared to be helping but then he stirred the pot behind Gary's back, thus making fun of him.

There seem to have been a few chats on equal level lately but it is to late. Were they afraid of his status?

[Tip]

I don't think it would have been great viewing to see people fawning over a Hollywood actor for 4 weeks either.

However, it has taught me that I probably won't go to a celebrity agent if I need a carer for myself or one of my family - (as if anyone needed that lesson).

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Tip

I don't think it would have been great viewing to see people fawning over a Hollywood actor for 4 weeks either.

However, it has taught me that I probably won't go to a celebrity agent if I need a carer for myself or one of my family - (as if anyone needed that lesson).

Ah Tip but why would they have had to fawn over an actor tbh. He is a legend in his own right but at the end of the day he isnt any better than any of us, I love him mind you but I do believe in equality. Shouldnt they have just treated him naturally instead of trying to bring him down all the time because they thought he wasnt really all there? This is my point.

Within the clan if one did something wrong they advised they didnt take the mickey so much but with Gary they treated him as a defect, someone lesser than them. We know better and for me age definitely shouldnt come into it but his deafness was obviously the thing which caused a lot of his trouble. Didnt mean to say though that he was/is any lesser a person. As he was told he tried to put things right, the others didnt they are to full of their own importance.

They could have then all shared their stories, we could have been far more entertained and learnt more about all of them. Much of their time has been used in pulling Gary down for their own amusement. One of the worst remarks was saying that he should be in a dog cage, not very nice, though Stephanie and James were higly amused.

[Tip]

I see their behaviour as a coping mechanism. Not a moral coping mechanism just a coping mechanism.

It may be shameful, but I don't see anything unnatural in their behaviour - have you seen the nastinesses that humans have indulged world wide throughout history? Particularly when people are on the defensive for whatever reasons?

Maybe it's time for BB producers to try and get a house with minimum nastiness in it, but I suspect that wouldn't work - unless they were genuinely able to create entertaining fun. Hearing their stories for 4 weeks may have entertained you - I think a 15 minute chat show interview of any of them (yes including Gary) would be enough for me and not what I'm looking for particularly in the house.

For me, it's about exposing what people do in that environment - and that includes the unpleasant, rude and ugly. As long as I genuinely don't think anyone is really a victim of something they can't cope with then that's fine. I'm not interested in the winners or loser really, it's the actual process that interests me.

So people don't cope as well as some others might, may not be as nice as we think we would be, could do better etc. etc. that's what makes it interesting for me.

I would however appreciate a little more fun environments so BB should be more up on creating tasks that balance things that are going on. The more negative the environment the more positive the tasks etc.

[Anothercat]

He may be a legend to some, but me and my husband had never heard of him

[NT30]

Someone said the odds for James was 100/1 so bet £100 you would get 10k if the syndicates prosper they chose to all bet 3k worth of votes and still b 7k up wish I had placed a bet so all the ones voting to make Gary favourite in polls just allowed the syndicates better odds. Not a betting person but interesting to see if we are all making some people a lot richer tonight