[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

That's the point I am not because I am watching the show for entertainment and support the housemate that has entertained me. I don't vote, it just frustrates me that people are ruining the show by loosing all sense of reality. By the way I have answered your question you have just deflected mine. How can you feel such spite towards someone you don't know and are basing an opinion from watching heavily edited highlights. Just interested because I seriously cannot believe what I read. Its not reality... It's set up situations designed to cause conflict and interest to get good ratings.

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

[Tip]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

People love having villains and being outraged - it's very hard to buy that people would bother watching a program if it wasn't entertaining them in some way.

If something truly horrible was going on that they felt truly abhorrent, then I presume that would take action to stop it going on, not sit there watching it and deciding to vote something or other at the end of it all.

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

This is how we see things differently though. I see a man who is not a frail, brain damaged person who needs to be handled with kid gloves. Let's be honest he would not be in there if that was the case.

I see a very strong willed man who doesn't listen to what others have to say because he is only interested in himself. I think he knows exactly what he is doing and instigates situations to annoy people and then stands back and plays the victim. It is pretty obvious from the comments made by evicted housemates that he is not easy to cope with.

Like I have said the producers could have chosen to show him in a bad way if they had wanted but I would imagine the fact that he is a Hollywood "legend" and they have paid him lots of money they wanted their money's worth

That's why different people make their opinions on people. Doesn't make anyone's wrong anyone's right. That's the idea of the show. Without live feed it is now like characters in a soap.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

This is how we see things differently though. I see a man who is not a frail, brain damaged person who needs to be handled with kid gloves. Let's be honest he would not be in there if that was the case.

I see a very strong willed man who doesn't listen to what others have to say because he is only interested in himself. I think he knows exactly what he is doing and instigates situations to annoy people and then stands back and plays the victim. It is pretty obvious from the comments made by evicted housemates that he is not easy to cope with.

Like I have said the producers could have chosen to show him in a bad way if they had wanted but I would imagine the fact that he is a Hollywood "legend" and they have paid him lots of money they wanted their money's worth.

This is where you don't get it. I don't see a weak man either. We aren't the sum total of someone else's behaviour towards us, that doesn't mean that that behaviour is acceptable.

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is where you don't get it. I don't see a weak man either. We aren't the sum total of someone else's behaviour towards us, that doesn't mean that that behaviour is acceptable.

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

And some of the posts condone horrible behaviour and some posts direct nastiness and name calling towards Gary and say he deserves it. Don't fool yourself into thinking that isn't a two way street from various people.

As someone said the other evening to Leslie on bots, Ian I think it was. Yes the shows are edited but we can't put words into your mouth. It's still you who said those things. Editing is really irrelevant, editing hasn't put the words that I view offensive into James or Dee's mouths, that has come straight from them.

Also we see how Gary responds. I find him the better person.

[NT30]

Originally Posted by jaxie

And some of the posts condone horrible behaviour and some posts direct nastiness and name calling towards Gary and say he deserves it. Don't fool yourself into thinking that isn't a two way street from various people.

As someone said the other evening to Leslie on bots, Ian I think it was. Yes the shows are edited but we can't put words into your mouth. It's still you who said those things. Editing is really irrelevant, editing hasn't put the words that I view offensive into James or Dee's mouths, that has come straight from them.

Also we see how Gary responds. I find him the better person.

Anyway If it's a gambling game then the odds against were on the outsiders, therefor the clever money would be on James, Edele , George and Dee as I think Gary was an early favourite

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

agreed. bullying in groups pernicous verbal abuse, ignoring , double standards, shouting at and insulting and jeering and mocking an individual, especially a vulnerable one with major health issues, is NOT entertainment at all. its sick and its boring.