[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Oh, i read somewhere that his parents are still together

But still.. he has many severe issues and the longer he's inside for, the better.

Sounds like he may have some mental problems to me.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Sounds like he may have some mental problems to me.

It's quite clear that he has mental problems, no normal kid would mercilessly stab a teacher in front of an entire class of people and then just go and sit back down as if nothing had happened.. I personally think that he should be going to an institute to serve 20 years rather than a prison.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

It's quite clear that he has mental problems, no normal kid would mercilessly stab a teacher in front of an entire class of people and then just go and sit back down as if nothing had happened.. I personally think that he should be going to an institute to serve 20 years rather than a prison.

I agree with this. Not sure he will get the help he needs in prison.

[Kyle]

I'm only young so maybe someone older can enlighten me but before video games what were people blaming for psychopathic murderers?

Horror movies?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree with this. Not sure he will get the help he needs in prison.

100% he won't get the help he needs in prison.. If the courts feel that 20 years is a sufficient enough time for him to serve and then to released back into society, then they should take every measure to assure that the kid is given help to control his issues and suppress his anger.

If they sent him to an institution he would still be serving out his 20 years, but at the same time he'd be getting the help he needs to make sure he's rehabilitated before being thrown back out into the big bad world, rather than just keeping him locked up in a cell for 23 hours a day.. which, if his mental health is as fragile as we're lead to believe, will probably make him deteriorate into a worse state.

[Tom4784]

I do hope he gets some help, he's going to be released some day so I'd rather him be a productive member of society then a repeat offender...

[Vicky.]

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer

I'd keep him away from your teddies too.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I have just bought gavs son gta5 for xmas. Best sleep with one eye open from now on because that game is certain to turn him into a cold blooded psycho killer

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

Don't be stupid....




















...he's too young to handle an M4. Give him a few years yet

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

My 3 year old has watched me play that game loads,He's not gone out and robbed any cars or beaten up any cops so far

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

Got to love people who look down on people for their parenting skills.

You have just tainted your argument in here completely, you are now saying that the proverbial will hit the fan, because a child sees someone playing a game.. that goes against everything you have said in here so far and the fact that you're questioning someone's parenting.. well, that's just uncalled for.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Got to love people who look down on people for their parenting skills.

You have just tainted your argument in here completely, you are now saying that the proverbial will hit the fan, because a child sees someone playing a game.. that goes against everything you have said in here so far and the fact that you're questioning someone's parenting.. well, that's just uncalled for.

Nobody knows the future, it's morally wrong to let a child view images of violence like that in GTA, when as parents we should be preserving their childhood and the innocence that goes with childhood, i've had a bad childhood and would never look down on a parents skills, but you are setting yourself up for a nightmare by not putting in boundaries, children need good positive role models.

FYI i'm getting so tired of arguing with know it all teenagers, and their vast life experiences, bore off.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Aged 3

Very impressionable age, it's the age where you should be teaching, morals, which GTA has none of......good luck with him when he's a teen, i only hope you remember your post when the **** hits the fan.

I do teach him morals,He knows right from wrong and he knows that anything on the telly is not real.He's a happy kid and interacts with other kids brilliantly,He helps them and shares his toys,sweets or anything he has and is always smiling.He helps us look after his little brother and loves him to bits.He is disciplined when he does anything naughty and knows what is bad.Oh yeah,He watched The Walking Dead once too and thought it was hilarious.

[Ramsay]

I bet Ted Bundy was level 8 prestige

[Shaun]

I wouldn't go so far as to say that these hypotheses were all true and absolutely certain The thing is they might not have taken 'inspiration' from GTA, or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or Manhunt, or whatever. They could've just as easily taken it from something else. That's precisely the point, these are people influenced by anything - 99.99999% of those who've watched Pulp Fiction don't go out and go all Oscar Pistorious on their toilet doors.

If there were one thing about the media that I would argue is damaging to those of a vaguely psychopathic or murderous leaning, it's the constant iconising of serial killers, school shooters and the like. There must be something in the infamy, the 100% attention on the perpetrator, the sort of 'antihero' status they receive, that's quite alluring to the darker sides of young people. Little to no attention is given to the victims - especially of school shootings/stabbings. I find that sad.

Is this actually what Maguire's death is being blamed on or just a general discussion on violent media?

[Livia]

I'm not convinced that violent games and films are to blame. I think he killed because he is a murdering, psychotic... I want to say 'animal ' but animals don't behave that way. Something was always going to be a trigger, I'm convinced that if he had never played a game nor seen a film he would still have been a murderer. The vast majority of people can tell right from wrong, good from bad and most importantly, fact from fiction. It takes a special kind of nut case to take what he sees on the screen and think he might re-enact it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not convinced that violent games and films are to blame. I think he killed because he is a murdering, psychotic... I want to say 'animal ' but animals don't behave that way. Something was always going to be a trigger, I'm convinced that if he had never played a game nor seen a film he would still have been a murderer. The vast majority of people can tell right from wrong, good from bad and most importantly, fact from fiction. It takes a special kind of nut case to take what he sees on the screen and think he might re-enact it.

To add to that from what the reports say he'd been obsessed with this teacher for 3 years prior to having killed her. Was he playing these games at 12? And even if he was, being obsessed like he seemed to be with this woman and his hatred for her doesn't really fit in with copying the plot of Grand theft Auto or whichever game he was playing, does it?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

To add to that from what the reports say he'd been obsessed with this teacher for 3 years prior to having killed her. Was he playing these games at 12? And even if he was, being obsessed like he seemed to be with this woman and his hatred for her doesn't really fit in with copying the plot of Grand theft Auto or whichever game he was playing, does it?

Quite.

There is nothing wrong with this young man that a hypodermic full of bleach wouldn't cure.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Livia

Quite.

There is nothing wrong with this young man that a hypodermic full of bleach wouldn't cure.

OMG <3

A woman after my own heart

[JoshBB]

He's messed up. Forget 20 years minimum, he needs at least fifty.

[Ammi]

...I totally agree with Dezzy, I don't think it's so much what a child watches or what they play/video games etc..it's how that child will interpret and process... and that would be the same with anything/any information or in how they see others around them...just how they process and interpret behaviour etc...I also agree that 'reading' behaviours early in a child's life and them getting the right help is all important and maybe could 'prevent'..through helping them to understand and help control... but sadly I also know the reality is that in too many cases, these children are badly let down through lack of resources....

[Ramsay]

Youtube video

[rubymoo]

I give up.....

I know i'm not alone in thinking the way i do.

Off to make tea.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I give up.....

I know i'm not alone in thinking the way i do.

Off to make tea.

Youtube video