[Daniel.]

Ease up on the chicken man was comedy genius

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I know, I'm just saying I thought there were a lot of gameplayers like Makosi, Derek, Caroline, Lydia etc I know that wasn't the theme but I think there were more ruthless gameplayers in those series than BB15 which is what made them nasty.

Yes, it had ruthless housemates. But the series was centered on being ruthless and powerful.
BB15 was designed to have ruthlessness.

BB6/13 are more remembered for being divisive and divided.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by BB6

How can we have faith in the show, when the last three series has been artificial boiled shyte.

It's not like they're helping the show, so why anyone would have any faith in it is beyond me.

Heck, they don't even have faith in the show themselves. What happened to BB being the main event of the summer. The fact most of the anticipation is for CBB16 speaks volumes, TBH.

I had faith for it, after CBB13. They disappointed me with BB15, and CBB14.
I re-gained my faith for CBB15, till Alicia was evicted, and the series turned into another BB15.

If they don't fix it, and BB16 is like BB15, and the second half of CBB15. Then it pretty much sets the tone for the next two years of Big Brother, IMO.

Originally Posted by BB6

They came along way from CBB8/BB12 to get to CBB13.
Then took twenty step backwards with BB15 and CBB14.

But every series of the show is different - I hated CBB13 once it got into the last couple of weeks. I didn't find all the stuff that was going on with Gary in the slightest bit entertaining.
I think the reason I'm fighting for C5's corner is because they are airing a show that has managed to get to 35 series. They HAVE to try new things. Yes I think a lot of that is down to the over reliance they have on CBB but I think they've very much made that their own. I don't think they need two series of it a year but they've got literally nothing else in their schedules that gets as much attention as Big Brother.
The show has to try out different things to remain interesting. Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.

[Daniel.]

Was there anyone in BB15 apart from Pauline and maybe Ashleigh that would be described as ruthless though? There's a difference between ruthless and aggression

[Jason.]

Channel 5 BB's have improved, in terms of quality of editing and the show it's self.

But, out of the three series which aired in 2014, only one was good, and two were dreadful, IMO.

2012 was a much better year for BB, and that was when BB was tacky as tinsel.

[Daniel.]

BB12 - Crap
BB13 - Amazing
BB14 - Average
BB15 - Crap
BB16 -

[Daniel.]

2012 was amazing, I loved all three seasons

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Was there anyone in BB15 apart from Pauline and maybe Ashleigh that would be described as ruthless though? There's a difference between ruthless and aggression

Tbh I'd not even put Ashleigh or Pauline in the ruthless category. To me the most ruthless was Mark. I found him SO ungenuine from the moment he walked in - he'd done reality TV before, he knew what kind of persona he needed to give off. The fact that he failed miserably showed that he didn't really give two ****s about anybody in there, it was all about him getting the most air time. I could literally list reasons why Mark was so horrible.

[Rob!]

BB14 was my favourite civilian series on C5. I just loved it. The tasks were great, the housemates for the most part all got me emotionally invested.

[reece(:]

Pauline provided the funniest moment of the series as the killer nom of Jale was revealed, everyone was shocked and she was sat back with her arms crossed on the couch smirking, serving a mafia boss.

I screamed.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

But every series of the show is different - I hated CBB13 once it got into the last couple of weeks. I didn't find all the stuff that was going on with Gary in the slightest bit entertaining.
I think the reason I'm fighting for C5's corner is because they are airing a show that has managed to get to 35 series. They HAVE to try new things. Yes I think a lot of that is down to the over reliance they have on CBB but I think they've very much made that their own. I don't think they need two series of it a year but they've got literally nothing else in their schedules that gets as much attention as Big Brother.
The show has to try out different things to remain interesting. Sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.

But they make the same mistakes over and over.

Didn't they learn in BB15 that having a series based on two rival housemates kills the show?

What do they do?

CBB14 - Gary vs. James
CBB15 - Perez vs. Katie H

What about the fact, that every series since CBB11 has had a secret room of some sort.

Especially in BB15 and CBB15 when they're clear attempts to go to producers way.

What about live feed?
It's not the cost. All they do is turn on a few cameras, and broadcast them.

The real reason we don't have live feed is so they can control what we see.

What about things that go on that we don't know about?
Like Perez doing a radio show, in the house, and Hopkins having access to a computer.

If they were honest, they would tell us. Instead they hide it from the viewers.

[Mystic Mock]

I miss Live Feed too, and I agree on making the show just on two Housemates is an horrific idea.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Pauline provided the funniest moment of the series as the killer nom of Jale was revealed, everyone was shocked and she was sat back with her arms crossed on the couch smirking, serving a mafia boss.

I screamed.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Rob!

BB14 was my favourite civilian series on C5. I just loved it. The tasks were great, the housemates for the most part all got me emotionally invested.

BB13 was so much better for me

BB14 was too manipulated and had too many fakes for me.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

BB13 was so much better for me

BB14 was too manipulated and had too many fakes for me.

I think Brian might have tainted it for me slightly. I shudder at the thought of "runwayyyy."

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

BB13 was so much better for me

BB14 was too manipulated and had too many fakes for me.

Agree.

It annoys me how the show has gotten less tacky now, yet the series are getting worse.

If they had a series like BB13 today, with the way BB is now on C5.

It would be flawless, IMO.

[Daniel.]

It was for me anyway

Deana is the only C5 housemate to make my top 5

[Jason.]

All I'm saying is C5 don't care about Civvy BB anymore, so why should I.

I'm giving it one more chance. If I enjoy BB16. I will continue watching it. If not, then I'll only watch CBB, as they seem to care more about that anyway.

We can only hope BB16 is a great series.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

It was for me anyway

Deana is the only C5 housemate to make my top 5

Deana was amazing.
I love her.

[Daniel.]

Stan the Queen

Deana > Gina and Dexter

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Stan the Queen

Deana > Gina and Dexter

This.

I'm going bed now, it's late. Good night/morning Daniel.

[Mystic Mock]

I say that if they botch BB16 then don't watch CBB16.

Hit them where it hurts and they might start making better Civilian BB's then, we're in a good position to do it considering it's been renewed for 3 more years.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BB6

Deana was amazing.
I love her.

Oh I do too.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I say that if they botch BB16 then don't watch CBB16.

Hit them where it hurts and they might start making better Civilian BB's then, we're in a good position to do it considering it's been renewed for 3 more years.

Yes.

Summer CBB is pointless to me.
It's just something to watch at 9/10pm, on September nights.

[Jason.]

Night all.