[Gusto Brunt]

Jack may be fat but you can't deny he's very good looking.

[VanessaFeltz.]

İ feel sorry for helen because she is fking dumb. She can only attack people on their apperance. "Fat bitch" to jale "skinny little prick" to matthew and "fat c" to jack

[Gstar]

There were no lies in what Helen called him

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MelihV

İ feel sorry for helen because she is fking dumb. She can only attack people on their apperance. "Fat bitch" to jale "skinny little prick" to matthew and "fat c" to jack

it's only the same as a lot of us do on here.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

it's only the same as a lot of us do on here.

And anyone who does it on here deserves to be challenged about it too.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And anyone who does it on here deserves to be challenged about it too.

But they won't be because there's the immorality factor to consider, you can be old/fat/ugly but if you're old/immoral, fat/immoral or ugly/immoral then you're fair game for abuse.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And anyone who does it on here deserves to be challenged about it too.

For Sure
Thats why TIBB
is one of the best

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And anyone who does it on here deserves to be challenged about it too.

Why ? we are all strangers and will have different opinions ,no one has the moral high ground.and lets be honest none of us are going to change our opinions that much on someone we already like.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why ? we are all strangers and will have different opinions ,no one has the moral high ground.and lets be honest none of us are going to change our opinions that much on someone we already like.

Because mindlessly insulting people over their looks adds nothing but nastiness.

And to be honest, if someone has a valid opinion and is capable of articulating that, they won't need to resort to appearance-related pettiness.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why ? we are all strangers and will have different opinions ,no one has the moral high ground.and lets be honest none of us are going to change our opinions that much on someone we already like.

Yes but surely someones weight and looks are not reasons to hate them.We would all possibly hate half the people we know if looks and weight should be relevant to whether someone was likable or not.

[Kazanne]

Whether we like it or not firstly we are judged on appearances,that is the way it is and like him or loathe him Jack IS overweight, plenty of people are calling Helen out on her looks and having a good old giggle . swings and roundabouts

[arista]

"like Helen was last year trying to destroy people"

Yes BJ

It was Amazing and Spunky

[Kizzy]

I won't come off it, I can say that personally physical insults are as bad as any perceived morality defect. Whether in the house or on here it's wrong, I don't believe in a sliding scale of wrongness...it is or it isn't.

I have no problem discerning green from red.

'So Joel is as bad as Helen, but because she doesn't sugar the pill, in some ways he's much worse.'
No, not much worse ...equally as bad.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I won't come off it, I can say that personally physical insults are as bad as any perceived morality defect.

Helen is the one who goes after physical features. Joel is commenting on morality. As we all must to maintain an ordered society. Hence the reason for laws which are to some extent based on that morality.

Whether in the house or on here it's wrong, I don't believe in a sliding scale of wrongness...it is or it isn't.

Then you have a serious inability to make distinctions. What Helen does is not merely insulting, it is intimidating and threatening.

'So Joel is as bad as Helen, but because she doesn't sugar the pill, in some ways he's much worse.'
No, not much worse ...equally as bad.

Joel saying being polyamorous is morally wrong is as bad as Helen going after a person's insecurities and trying to make that person feel small whilst jabbing a finger in that person's face in an aggressive manner. Okay. What has happened to morals in this country? Oh, sorry, I'm now as bad as Helen!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Helen is the one who goes after physical features. Joel is commenting on morality. As we all must to maintain an ordered society. Hence the reason for laws which are to some extent based on that morality.



Then you have a serious inability to make distinctions. What Helen does is not merely insulting, it is intimidating and threatening.





Joel saying being polyamorous is morally wrong is as bad as Helen going after a person's insecurities and trying to make that person feel small whilst jabbing a finger in that person's face in an aggressive manner. Okay. What has happened to morals in this country? Oh, sorry, I'm now as bad as Helen!

Laughable that you're attempting to justify the rude comments made towards some hms as being necessary for the fabric of society yet the comments made towards Jack are abhorrent... double standards :/

How is what helen has said any worse than what Jack said about himself prior to entering the house? His USP is that he is a fat annoying person, have a look at his VT... 'Hello my name is pie face, I like pie'.

If all the sanctimonious bores would understand that it's as abusive and offensive to insult a persons core values as it is their physical appearance the world would be a happier place.

[joeysteele]

If someone sleeps around I will judge them on that and not pleasantly, if someone isn't good looking or is overweight I will not make judgements as to them on those factors at all.
The 2 things are entirely different as to how a person is and acts.

[VanessaFeltz.]

İ have made horrible comments as well, we are humans sometimes we cross the line but helen doesnt even know him personally and made that comment the moment she entered that was so rude

[arista]

Yes she is Rude
I love Her

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes she is Rude
I love Her

Stunning outfit !!

[Strictly Jake]

I'm pleased that they don't like Jack. We all want him out. But I see Helen has not changed her ways, her comments instantly reminded me of the disgusting way she treat Jale!

[Vanessa]

Can't stand Jack either. All he does is moan and sleep. He's so lazy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Can't stand Jack either. All he does is moan and sleep. He's so lazy.

You Are Most Wise

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Can't stand Jack either. All he does is moan and sleep. He's so lazy.

He's absolutely useless and too negative for my liking.

[Razor]

I can't stand the cow.

[fitz2k2]

can you imagine if Helen became official housemate.nick would of jumped from jade to harry to Helen.helen be like **** off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BORINGGGGGGGGGGGG.cant wait if that actually happens probably not