[Adam_bb]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't think there is anything more ridiculous than saying James is to blame for Austin's actions. It was Austin who said those vile things to Janice he's responsible, no one else.

Seconded

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Adam_bb

Seconded

I third it.

Austin is to blame for his own actions. If he decided to trash the kitchen or smash the place up, then it would be HIS actions and no one else would be to blame other than himself.


He said those things to Janice because he's a splenetic person. No way is James to blame for his stupidity.

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

I third it.

Austin is to blame for his own actions. If he decided to trash the kitchen or smash the place up, then it would be HIS actions and no one else would be to blame other than himself.


He said those things to Janice because he's a splenetic person. No way is James to blame for his stupidity.

"Splenetic"...love it! I rarely see that word used.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BB4fan

I third it.

Austin is to blame for his own actions. If he decided to trash the kitchen or smash the place up, then it would be HIS actions and no one else would be to blame other than himself.


He said those things to Janice because he's a splenetic person. No way is James to blame for his stupidity.

But James isn't getting abuse for the Janice thing by most of the Austin fans, it's the fact that he nominated him and then doesn't expect Austin to be upset about it that makes him in the wrong and a disgrace.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't think there is anything more ridiculous than saying James is to blame for Austin's actions. It was Austin who said those vile things to Janice he's responsible, no one else.

Why did Austin say what he did? He did it because he felt terribly betrayed by a person who he genuinely thought was his friend and has turned out to be a cunning weasel.

Austin took it out on Janice, wrongly, but he wanted her to feel his pain, not realizing that a self absorbed cow like her doesn't feel anything. She just manipulates situations and disappears back into her own little world.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Why did Austin say what he did? He did it because he felt terribly betrayed by a person who he genuinely thought was his friend and has turned out to be a cunning weasel.

Austin took it out on Janice, wrongly, but he wanted her to feel his pain, not realizing that a self absorbed cow like her doesn't feel anything. She just manipulates situations and disappears back into her own little world.

I don't call someone names because I feel betrayed by someone else. I call them names because I mean it. He has no right to make Janice 'feel his pain'. He was out of order plain and simple and it bears no reflection at all on James nomination.
And how do you know she feels nothing? What a presumption! And still its no excuse for what he sad.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't call someone names because I feel betrayed by someone else.

You're not on Big Brother either. So what? No one is justifying Austin's reaction, just explaining where it was coming from.

I call them names because I mean it. He has no right to make Janice 'feel his pain'. He was out of order plain and simple and it bears no reflection at all on James nomination.

Yes, he was and everyone admits that. but some of you refuse to admit Janice is a highly manipulative person who purposely fails tasks to get the spotlight regardless of what the consequences are for others, which happened to be for Austin last night. He was desperate for his letter from home and she just threw at him and then pretended to be sorry for it. She was nothing of the sort.

And how do you know she feels nothing? What a presumption! And still its no excuse for what he sad.

I have not seen one bit of evidence that that woman cares about anyone or anything other than herself. And Austin, Bobby and Sherrie all nominated her for essentially this reason.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

You're not on Big Brother either. So what? No one is justifying Austin's reaction, just explaining where it was coming from.




Yes, he was and everyone admits that. but some of you refuse to admit Janice is a highly manipulative person who purposely fails tasks to get the spotlight regardless of what the consequences are for others, which happened to be for Austin last night. He was desperate for his letter from home and she just threw at him and then pretended to be sorry for it. She was nothing of the sort.



I have not seen one bit of evidence that that woman cares about anyone or anything other than herself. And Austin, Bobby and Sherrie all nominated her for essentially this reason.

I don't give a flying fcuk whether Janice is manipulative or not. It doesn't matter to me, I don't care. It has no bearing on the voile things that were said to her. If she is or she isn't does not invite the tirade of vitriole Austin gave. It was uncalled for.

If you want to talk manipulative, look at Jenna, she is the most manipulative person in the house.

Also if Austin spoke to me the way he has to Janice many times, I'd throw the letter at him too, shame they didn't have to eat them.

[Mystic Mock]

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

It doesn't matter what Jenna's motives was, you don't nominate allies, but when he nominates his friend then I wouldn't put it past him to nominate an ally (even if it's only formed recently)

Freddie in BB10 lost the plot towards the end of his series, did you see Siavash and Marcus nominating him? No because they was alligned and they knew not to backstab each other.

And for more recent ones Jim and Dappy in CBB13 did/said some disgraceful things yet you didn't see them nominating each other because of them, the same for Helen and Ash in BB15.

And who remembers the abuse that Ashleigh in BB15 received for nominating Christopher despite being as close as Jaustin are suppose to be?

Why is it okay for James to betray a friend/ally but not Ashleigh in her series? Or Dappy when he nominated Luisa? Which btw I disagreed with all 3 choices and Dappy was my favourite in his series so I'm being fair here, why can't other people do the same?

[downthechippie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It doesn't matter what Jenna's motives was, you don't nominate allies, but when he nominates his friend then I wouldn't put it past him to nominate an ally (even if it's only formed recently)

Freddie in BB10 lost the plot towards the end of his series, did you see Siavash and Marcus nominating him? No because they was alligned and they knew not to backstab each other.

And for more recent ones Jim and Dappy in CBB13 did/said some disgraceful things yet you didn't see them nominating each other because of them, the same for Helen and Ash in BB15.

And who remembers the abuse that Ashleigh in BB15 received for nominating Christopher despite being as close as Jaustin are suppose to be?

Why is it okay for James to betray a friend/ally but not Ashleigh in her series? Or Dappy when he nominated Luisa? Which btw I disagreed with all 3 choices and Dappy was my favourite in his series so I'm being fair here, why can't other people do the same?

I understand exactly what you are saying Mystic, because loyalty is high up on my list of qualities. Sadly, many people don't seem to put much store by it - as demonstrated on this very thread.

What James did to Austin was spiteful, hurtful, designed to eliminate. You don't do that to 'friends'.

But I think that James is the sort of person who goes about his life, very charming and friendly, on the surface a pleasant person - but underneath he is something else. He has no substance or moral compass.

I would say that the most hurtful people are not those who shout or swear, but those who say things 'in the nicest possible way', calmly and with the pretence of doing it for your own good, while really putting in the psychological knife.

Give me a 'shouter' any day of the week.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by downthechippie

I understand exactly what you are saying Mystic, because loyalty is high up on my list of qualities. Sadly, many people don't seem to put much store by it - as demonstrated on this very thread.

What James did to Austin was spiteful, hurtful, designed to eliminate. You don't do that to 'friends'.

But I think that James is the sort of person who goes about his life, very charming and friendly, on the surface a pleasant person - but underneath he is something else. He has no substance or moral compass.

I would say that the most hurtful people are not those who shout or swear, but those who say things 'in the nicest possible way', calmly and with the pretence of doing it for your own good, while really putting in the psychological knife.

Give me a 'shouter' any day of the week.

I don't think blind
Loyalty is worth having. I'd have had less respect for James if he just went along with Austin on everything, even when Austin says unacceptable things.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

Bitching about someone is not the same as nominating them.

That really is clutching at straws if I've ever seen it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Bitching about someone is not the same as nominating them.

That really is clutching at straws if I've ever seen it.

Where did I say it was? (Although I don't blame James for nominating them ONE BIT!)

I was pointing out that Jenna is no great friend/ally of James as she claimed to be to him tonight as she has been trying to poison Austin against him behind his back.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

Agreeing that he's a self serving creep who gave himself away tonight... "Why would I nominate Janice when she's done nothing to me". Sherrie managed it James. Bobby managed it as well. Both of them can see what a despicable manipulator she is. You on the other hand would rather nominate your friend because "it's the right thing to do" for all the audience to see and hopefully, if it all goes to plan, celebrate you for your moral courage and then vote for you to win.

The guy gives me the creeps.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Agreeing that he's a self serving creep who gave himself away tonight... "Why would I nominate Janice when she's done nothing to me". Sherrie managed it James. Bobby managed it as well. Both of them can see what a despicable manipulator she is. You on the other hand would rather nominate your friend because "it's the right thing to do" for all the audience to see and hopefully, if it all goes to plan, celebrate you for your moral courage and then vote for you to win.

The guy gives me the creeps.

James would know full well that nominating Austin could just as easily go against him. There are no guarantees about how an audience will react. He did what he thought was right and he'll take the consequences with his usual dignity whatever they may be.
Austin's behaviour tonight once again was atrocious and just gives more credence as to why James nominated him in the first place.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

I can't believe people are trying to excuse and justify Austen's behaviour tonight. And yes it's probably just you with the dullards thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can't believe people are trying to excuse and justify Austen's behaviour tonight. And yes it's probably just you with the dullards thing.

This is my evaluation of Austin's behaviour tonight.

James - James looking calmer and more reasonable of the two, but essentially him nominating his friend in the house when Austin didn't do the same thing just does make James in the wrong, there's no getting away from that for me.

Natasha - She had no reason to get involved as he has never done anything wrong to her, plus shouting at him when he weren't shouting at her made her look desperate to steal both James and Austin's thunder, thankfully it failed.

Bobby - Bobby's just creepy, that's all I can really say there.

Janice - This is the one that bugged me with Austin tonight, I don't like it when people bring up people's parenting to use in a positive or negative light on this show to try and influence the public's feelings of said Housemate (in this case it was Janice) and I also don't that Janice really did much wrong to warrant the C-Bomb to drop off again tonight either.

And I doubt that I'll be on my own once people have to watch James, Natasha, Stevi & Chloe, Janice, Bobby, and Sherrie.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year

I had to stop here bc I was convinced this post was satire.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I had to stop here bc I was convinced this post was satire.

Do you agree with the rest of my points?

[tanussa]

the real guilty person ib this is jenna. once farrah was evicted it was jennas sole intention to split up james & austins bond/friendship. at every opportunity she winds austin up, will say negative things abt. james, well before tonites noms., she ignites his fuse & sits back & watches him blow. its her fault thst it got to this point, they were gettin along fine til friday. she the wrong un, not james, not austin

[*mazedsalv**]

James to win! His reasons were valid.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

James to win! His reasons were valid.

They were bollocks. And you have been duped and can't admit you're supporting a conman. This often happens when people have been conned.