[Mystic Mock]

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

[Stormy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

It doesn't matter what Jenna's motives was, you don't nominate allies, but when he nominates his friend then I wouldn't put it past him to nominate an ally (even if it's only formed recently)

Freddie in BB10 lost the plot towards the end of his series, did you see Siavash and Marcus nominating him? No because they was alligned and they knew not to backstab each other.

And for more recent ones Jim and Dappy in CBB13 did/said some disgraceful things yet you didn't see them nominating each other because of them, the same for Helen and Ash in BB15.

And who remembers the abuse that Ashleigh in BB15 received for nominating Christopher despite being as close as Jaustin are suppose to be?

Why is it okay for James to betray a friend/ally but not Ashleigh in her series? Or Dappy when he nominated Luisa? Which btw I disagreed with all 3 choices and Dappy was my favourite in his series so I'm being fair here, why can't other people do the same?

[downthechippie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It doesn't matter what Jenna's motives was, you don't nominate allies, but when he nominates his friend then I wouldn't put it past him to nominate an ally (even if it's only formed recently)

Freddie in BB10 lost the plot towards the end of his series, did you see Siavash and Marcus nominating him? No because they was alligned and they knew not to backstab each other.

And for more recent ones Jim and Dappy in CBB13 did/said some disgraceful things yet you didn't see them nominating each other because of them, the same for Helen and Ash in BB15.

And who remembers the abuse that Ashleigh in BB15 received for nominating Christopher despite being as close as Jaustin are suppose to be?

Why is it okay for James to betray a friend/ally but not Ashleigh in her series? Or Dappy when he nominated Luisa? Which btw I disagreed with all 3 choices and Dappy was my favourite in his series so I'm being fair here, why can't other people do the same?

I understand exactly what you are saying Mystic, because loyalty is high up on my list of qualities. Sadly, many people don't seem to put much store by it - as demonstrated on this very thread.

What James did to Austin was spiteful, hurtful, designed to eliminate. You don't do that to 'friends'.

But I think that James is the sort of person who goes about his life, very charming and friendly, on the surface a pleasant person - but underneath he is something else. He has no substance or moral compass.

I would say that the most hurtful people are not those who shout or swear, but those who say things 'in the nicest possible way', calmly and with the pretence of doing it for your own good, while really putting in the psychological knife.

Give me a 'shouter' any day of the week.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by downthechippie

I understand exactly what you are saying Mystic, because loyalty is high up on my list of qualities. Sadly, many people don't seem to put much store by it - as demonstrated on this very thread.

What James did to Austin was spiteful, hurtful, designed to eliminate. You don't do that to 'friends'.

But I think that James is the sort of person who goes about his life, very charming and friendly, on the surface a pleasant person - but underneath he is something else. He has no substance or moral compass.

I would say that the most hurtful people are not those who shout or swear, but those who say things 'in the nicest possible way', calmly and with the pretence of doing it for your own good, while really putting in the psychological knife.

Give me a 'shouter' any day of the week.

I don't think blind
Loyalty is worth having. I'd have had less respect for James if he just went along with Austin on everything, even when Austin says unacceptable things.

[downthechippie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't think blind
Loyalty is worth having. I'd have had less respect for James if he just went along with Austin on everything, even when Austin says unacceptable things.

oh, I too would have respected James if he had told Austin straight that he was totally pissed off with his attitude, so much so that it was affecting his feelings of friendship towards him. What jars with me, is the way he ca\vorts with Austin, all the banter and closeness, as though they were good friends. All this talk of people not getting close in a few weeks is just not true. People can get very very close in a few weeks if they are sharing experiences and time and proximity with each other 24/7.

What has made me dislike James is his cold bloodedness. His ability to be emotionally aloof from someone who obviously cares a lot for him - i.e. Austin. James knows how Austin feels about him and James is not being open and honest.

That is not nice.

[jet]

Originally Posted by downthechippie

oh, I too would have respected James if he had told Austin straight that he was totally pissed off with his attitude, so much so that it was affecting his feelings of friendship towards him. What jars with me, is the way he ca\vorts with Austin, all the banter and closeness, as though they were good friends. All this talk of people not getting close in a few weeks is just not true. People can get very very close in a few weeks if they are sharing experiences and time and proximity with each other 24/7.

What has made me dislike James is his cold bloodedness. His ability to be emotionally aloof from someone who obviously cares a lot for him - i.e. Austin. James knows how Austin feels about him and James is not being open and honest.

That is not nice.

He did speak to him about his attitude, several times!
Of course James is going to banter with Austin - they hang out together and have fun. It doesn't mean they have to swear undying loyalty to each other no matter if one of them behaves like a bullying lout.

[just thinkin]

Originally Posted by downthechippie

oh, I too would have respected James if he had told Austin straight that he was totally pissed off with his attitude, so much so that it was affecting his feelings of friendship towards him. What jars with me, is the way he ca\vorts with Austin, all the banter and closeness, as though they were good friends. All this talk of people not getting close in a few weeks is just not true. People can get very very close in a few weeks if they are sharing experiences and time and proximity with each other 24/7.

What has made me dislike James is his cold bloodedness. His ability to be emotionally aloof from someone who obviously cares a lot for him - i.e. Austin. James knows how Austin feels about him and James is not being open and honest.

That is not nice.

he did - and a lot more than once. Austin 'Im always right' Amoroso didn't want to listen and instead went off on a rant.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Stormy

How can you say that Jenna is James friend/ally? Because she tried to get in with him over the past two days since she lost her only ally, Farrah? You expect James to forget everything except the past few days???? Really????

How fast you forget that she said nothing but nasty things about James and disrepected Austin from Day 1 until Farrah's eviction on Friday. She also took the first shot by nominating him.

Austin was also on her hit list and was nominated by her...he only came into her graces when she lost her first attack dog. Austin looks the fool for following her.

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

Bitching about someone is not the same as nominating them.

That really is clutching at straws if I've ever seen it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Bitching about someone is not the same as nominating them.

That really is clutching at straws if I've ever seen it.

Where did I say it was? (Although I don't blame James for nominating them ONE BIT!)

I was pointing out that Jenna is no great friend/ally of James as she claimed to be to him tonight as she has been trying to poison Austin against him behind his back.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Where did I say it was? (Although I don't blame James for nominating them ONE BIT!)

I was pointing out that Jenna is no great friend/ally of James as she claimed to be to him tonight as she has been trying to poison Austin against him behind his back.

So what was your stance on Ashleigh nominating Christopher? Or Dappy nominating Luisa? Until I get an answer I'm not gonna stop posting these two scenarios as I remember a much more controversial responses to these two scenarios.

Is it because they're not the stereotypical straight white male pretty boy? Or is it because it's on Austin who most people seem to strongly dislike? Or both?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

So what was your stance on Ashleigh nominating Christopher? Or Dappy nominating Luisa? Until I get an answer I'm not gonna stop posting these two scenarios as I remember a much more controversial responses to these two scenarios.

Is it because they're not the stereotypical straight white male pretty boy? Or is it because it's on Austin who most people seem to strongly dislike? Or both?

I'm the wrong one to ask about those past scenarios. I can't remember the details at all. Maybe someone else can help, sorry!

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

Spot on again! She is such a friend/ally to James that she has spent the last few days backstabbing him to Austin - and James's so called great mate Austin has been agreeing with her...

Agreeing that he's a self serving creep who gave himself away tonight... "Why would I nominate Janice when she's done nothing to me". Sherrie managed it James. Bobby managed it as well. Both of them can see what a despicable manipulator she is. You on the other hand would rather nominate your friend because "it's the right thing to do" for all the audience to see and hopefully, if it all goes to plan, celebrate you for your moral courage and then vote for you to win.

The guy gives me the creeps.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Agreeing that he's a self serving creep who gave himself away tonight... "Why would I nominate Janice when she's done nothing to me". Sherrie managed it James. Bobby managed it as well. Both of them can see what a despicable manipulator she is. You on the other hand would rather nominate your friend because "it's the right thing to do" for all the audience to see and hopefully, if it all goes to plan, celebrate you for your moral courage and then vote for you to win.

The guy gives me the creeps.

James would know full well that nominating Austin could just as easily go against him. There are no guarantees about how an audience will react. He did what he thought was right and he'll take the consequences with his usual dignity whatever they may be.
Austin's behaviour tonight once again was atrocious and just gives more credence as to why James nominated him in the first place.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

James would know full well that nominating Austin could just as easily go against him.

Alternatively, it could go in his favour, especially if it's made him look like this poor guy who was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He felt he had to do the "right" thing, but that would involve nominating his friend. But because of his commitment to doing the right thing, it had to be done. Oh what a man of integrity! And if you'll believe that, you'll believe anything... And he was even out there on that bench in tonight's show with the camera on him, saying this. Further proof of him playing to the audience.

There are no guarantees about how an audience will react. He did what he thought was right and he'll take the consequences with his usual dignity whatever they may be.

The consequences are him winning. So don't worry about it. Saint Slimeball hasn't just taken you in, he and his good looks have taken the majority of voters in as well.

Austin's behaviour tonight once again was atrocious and just gives more credence as to why James nominated him in the first place.

He was hurt by the betrayal by his friend and wanted the manipulative bitch that is Janice to feel some of it. A silly thing to do, but look at the state he got himself into for it... That was real remorse, and deep shame you saw in him. Compare that to Janice, who has acted every step of the way with every emotion she's ever shown. Not to mention James, who sat there cold as ice throughout it all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He was hurt by the betrayal by his friend and wanted the manipulative bitch that is Janice to feel some of it. A silly thing to do, but look at the state he got himself into for it... That was real remorse, and deep shame you saw in him. Compare that to Janice, who has acted every step of the way with every emotion she's ever shown. Not to mention James, who sat there cold as ice throughout it all.

Why wasn't he honest enough and man enough to hurl his abuse at James instead of taking it out on an elderly woman who had hardly did a thing to provoke it? When Natasha yelled at him his face was a picture and it shut him up pronto!
And I don't agree that it was real remorse or shame, he was just being self pitying. He was in a state though, and I did feel for him. He has a lot of growing up to do, and the comparison between James's maturity and his immaturity is quite startling, given they are around the same age.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I can't believe that people are throwing their support behind James tonight after backstabbing two friends/allies.

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year, but I would've loved to have seen it change this year but sadly it hasn't.

And is it just me who's hating James scrunched up faces when his going on his self-righteous rants? It looks like needs to go for a crap.

And is it just me who thinks that when Austin and Jenna goes that it will be an all dullard final?

I can't believe people are trying to excuse and justify Austen's behaviour tonight. And yes it's probably just you with the dullards thing.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can't believe people are trying to excuse and justify Austen's behaviour tonight. And yes it's probably just you with the dullards thing.

This is my evaluation of Austin's behaviour tonight.

James - James looking calmer and more reasonable of the two, but essentially him nominating his friend in the house when Austin didn't do the same thing just does make James in the wrong, there's no getting away from that for me.

Natasha - She had no reason to get involved as he has never done anything wrong to her, plus shouting at him when he weren't shouting at her made her look desperate to steal both James and Austin's thunder, thankfully it failed.

Bobby - Bobby's just creepy, that's all I can really say there.

Janice - This is the one that bugged me with Austin tonight, I don't like it when people bring up people's parenting to use in a positive or negative light on this show to try and influence the public's feelings of said Housemate (in this case it was Janice) and I also don't that Janice really did much wrong to warrant the C-Bomb to drop off again tonight either.

And I doubt that I'll be on my own once people have to watch James, Natasha, Stevi & Chloe, Janice, Bobby, and Sherrie.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I know that people threw their morals away due to hating Perez last year

I had to stop here bc I was convinced this post was satire.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I had to stop here bc I was convinced this post was satire.

Do you agree with the rest of my points?