[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Agreeing that he's a self serving creep who gave himself away tonight... "Why would I nominate Janice when she's done nothing to me". Sherrie managed it James. Bobby managed it as well. Both of them can see what a despicable manipulator she is. You on the other hand would rather nominate your friend because "it's the right thing to do" for all the audience to see and hopefully, if it all goes to plan, celebrate you for your moral courage and then vote for you to win.

The guy gives me the creeps.

James would know full well that nominating Austin could just as easily go against him. There are no guarantees about how an audience will react. He did what he thought was right and he'll take the consequences with his usual dignity whatever they may be.
Austin's behaviour tonight once again was atrocious and just gives more credence as to why James nominated him in the first place.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

James would know full well that nominating Austin could just as easily go against him.

Alternatively, it could go in his favour, especially if it's made him look like this poor guy who was stuck between a rock and a hard place. He felt he had to do the "right" thing, but that would involve nominating his friend. But because of his commitment to doing the right thing, it had to be done. Oh what a man of integrity! And if you'll believe that, you'll believe anything... And he was even out there on that bench in tonight's show with the camera on him, saying this. Further proof of him playing to the audience.

There are no guarantees about how an audience will react. He did what he thought was right and he'll take the consequences with his usual dignity whatever they may be.

The consequences are him winning. So don't worry about it. Saint Slimeball hasn't just taken you in, he and his good looks have taken the majority of voters in as well.

Austin's behaviour tonight once again was atrocious and just gives more credence as to why James nominated him in the first place.

He was hurt by the betrayal by his friend and wanted the manipulative bitch that is Janice to feel some of it. A silly thing to do, but look at the state he got himself into for it... That was real remorse, and deep shame you saw in him. Compare that to Janice, who has acted every step of the way with every emotion she's ever shown. Not to mention James, who sat there cold as ice throughout it all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He was hurt by the betrayal by his friend and wanted the manipulative bitch that is Janice to feel some of it. A silly thing to do, but look at the state he got himself into for it... That was real remorse, and deep shame you saw in him. Compare that to Janice, who has acted every step of the way with every emotion she's ever shown. Not to mention James, who sat there cold as ice throughout it all.

Why wasn't he honest enough and man enough to hurl his abuse at James instead of taking it out on an elderly woman who had hardly did a thing to provoke it? When Natasha yelled at him his face was a picture and it shut him up pronto!
And I don't agree that it was real remorse or shame, he was just being self pitying. He was in a state though, and I did feel for him. He has a lot of growing up to do, and the comparison between James's maturity and his immaturity is quite startling, given they are around the same age.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

Why wasn't he honest enough and man enough to hurl his abuse at James

He did. He called him a ball-less bitch.

instead of taking it out on an elderly woman who had hardly did a thing to provoke it?

She had thrown his letter right at him last night after having lost it in her latest attempt to get some attention for herself by playing the dozy old bat. He was angry that whilst Jenna, Sherrie and Bobby could all see her for what she is, James only cared that "she had never done anything" to him and so nominated his best friend instead, after he's lost his letter from home. And apparently all for Austin's own good, despite the fact that James had no idea it would be shown to the house, and Austin wouldn't see it until he was out.

When Natasha yelled at him his face was a picture and it shut him up pronto!

And? She just looked like a moron to me.

And I don't agree that it was real remorse or shame, he was just being self pitying. He was in a state though, and I did feel for him.

He was in a state because he felt shame.

He has a lot of growing up to do, and the comparison between James's maturity and his immaturity is quite startling, given they are around the same age.

James is a cold fish, and being very calculating. Call it maturity if you want, I just see a slimeball. And as for immature... Take a good look at Janice.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He did. He called him a ball-less bitch.



She had thrown his letter right at him last night after having lost it in her latest attempt to get some attention for herself by playing the dozy old bat.




And? She just looked like a moron to me.



He was in a state because he felt shame.



James is a cold fish, and being very calculating. Call it maturity if you want, I just see a slimeball. And as for immature... Take a good look at Janice.

Calling James a ball - less bitch was hardly hurling a torrent of horrendous abuse like he did with Janice...and he started on Janice TONIGHT when she didn't even say anything to warrant it....really your excuses for Austin are getting more and more ridiculous and it's just tiresome now....

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jet

Calling James a ball - less bitch was hardly hurling abuse like he did with Janice...and he started on Janice TONIGHT when she didn't even say anything to warrant it

He walked in, angry, and heard her talking about him and that set him off. Why James even brought Janice into it I have no idea, other than him just being slimy again.

....really your excuses for Austin are getting more and more ridiculous and it's just tiresome now....

How many ****ing times do I have to say I am not excusing his behaviour tonight? I am explaining where he was probably coming from and also pointing out the betrayal by James and what an odious creature Janice is.

Again and again, those of us sympathetic with Austin will concede he was out of order saying what he did. But those of you who only wish to condemn him will not see what James did, how it could effect a person and you turn a blind eye to just how awful Janice is, despite the fact that both Bobby and Sherrie have said it tonight as well.

This is the problem, whilst I can concede Austin was out of line, a lot of you are painting a perfect picture of James and Janice, and it is nauseating in the extreme. The housemates themselves have Janice sussed, and it amazes me that people can watch James give this cock and bull explanations and not see through him at all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He walked in, angry, and heard her talking about him and that set him off. Why James even brought Janice into it I have no idea, other than him just being slimy again.



How many ****ing times do I have to say I am not excusing his behaviour tonight? I am explaining where he was probably coming from and also pointing out the betrayal by James and what an odious creature Janice is.

Again and again, those of us sympathetic with Austin will concede he was out of order saying what he did. But those of you who only wish to condemn him will not see what James did, how it could effect a person and you turn a blind eye to just how awful Janice is, despite the fact that both Bobby and Sherrie have said it tonight as well.

This is the problem, whilst I can concede Austin was out of line, a lot of you are painting a perfect picture of James and Janice, and it is nauseating in the extreme. The housemates themselves have Janice sussed, and it amazes me that people can watch James give this cock and bull explanations and not see through him at all.

I can see how it would affect Austin but the difference is I don't use it as an excuse for how he hurled such abuse at Janice instead of the person he was really angry at - James. I also don't see Janice as being awful, I see her as as eccentric and a bit batty and I like her. You like Austin despite his faults, I like Janice despite hers. I think James was right to nominate whoever he pleased and I have no reason to suspect his motives as it is more likely that the public will go against him for his decision and he would know that. I fully expect Austin to be there for the final so will you calm the F down and take a chill pill ffs.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by jet

Calling James a ball - less bitch was hardly hurling a torrent of horrendous abuse like he did with Janice...and he started on Janice TONIGHT when she didn't even say anything to warrant it....really your excuses for Austin are getting more and more ridiculous and it's just tiresome now....

Have you thought that Austin didn't go too far with James because he still actually sees James as a friend?

I can't believe that people are pretending that James has a leg to stand on, it needs to stop as it's making James into one of those Housemates that can do anything and people are expected to just lap it up, neutral voters will not like that as it's happened with Farrah, Jenna, and Austin now where his self-righteous and sometimes downright disgusting behaviour has been let off.