[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I'm not prejudice in the slightest, so let's not say everyone is tah

You're always going to judge someone though, Liam, even if you don't realise you're doing it. It's like when you meet someone who you've only seen through photos, and you say to them "oh, you looked taller in your photos!" You judged them - you expected them to be tall. That's just one example.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

You're always going to judge someone though, Liam, even if you don't realise you're doing it. It's like when you meet someone who you've only seen through photos, and you say to them "oh, you looked taller in your photos!" You judged them - you expected them to be tall. That's just one example.

That's not prejudice, that's just a wrong assumption about someone's appearance based on a picture, these are not very good examples you're giving here.

I'm not prejudice, I'm not racist, I'm not sexist and I'm certainly not homophobic, you can't sit there and say everyone is just because you might be in your subconscious, that's your issue.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That's not prejudice, that's just a wrong assumption about someone's appearance based on a picture, these are not very good examples you're giving here.

I'm not prejudice, I'm not racist, I'm not sexist and I'm certainly not homophobic, you can't sit there and say everyone is just because you might be in your subconscious, that's your issue.

But an assumption is a judgement?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

But an assumption is a judgement?

Not when it's an assumption gained through false information, if someone says they're 6'2" then you meet them and they're 5,3" saying 'You're shorter than you said you were' is not a judgement, or prejudice as you're trying to ridiculously link it to, it's a realisation that prior information was incorrect.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just saw a man looking far too well groomed for an auction

I thought: hmm you could be gay



Am I a homophobe?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I just saw a man looking far too well groomed for an auction

I thought: hmm you could be gay



Am I a homophobe?

I think that's complimentary if anything, how is that homophobic?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I just saw a man looking far too well groomed for an auction

I thought: hmm you could be gay



Am I a homophobe?

You don't have to be gay to have a wash LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You don't have to be gay to have a wash LT.

No but why do you have to wash in a Turkish bath so often?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No but why do you have to wash in a Turkish bath so often?

They have the best soaps.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They have the best soaps.

They don't even have Emmerdale?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They have the best soaps.

And the very best Delights.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You don't have to be gay to have a wash LT.

[Kyle]

I do find it a little hilarious when some of the most fervent anti gay, traditional marriage pushing fundamentalist Christians get caught soliciting sex from men.

Or people like the Duggar kid who molested his sister, pushing traditional marriage and faithfulness before getting caught with his pants down on Ashley Maddison.

After it stops being funny though it makes me really angry. By all means push your agenda if you want, but if you are a hypocrite that does not practice what you preach that makes it all the more unpalatable to me.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I do find it a little hilarious when some of the most fervent anti gay, traditional marriage pushing fundamentalist Christians get caught soliciting sex from men.

Or people like the Duggar kid who molested his sister, pushing traditional marriage and faithfulness before getting caught with his pants down on Ashley Maddison.

After it stops being funny though it makes me really angry. By all means push your agenda if you want, but if you are a hypocrite that does not practice what you preach that makes it all the more unpalatable to me.

I agree. I try not to let stuff like this get to me though. I'm so over religion.

[kirklancaster]

Niamh is so correct - 99% of this thread has got nothing to do with homophobia.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I do find it a little hilarious when some of the most fervent anti gay, traditional marriage pushing fundamentalist Christians get caught soliciting sex from men.

Or people like the Duggar kid who molested his sister, pushing traditional marriage and faithfulness before getting caught with his pants down on Ashley Maddison.

After it stops being funny though it makes me really angry. By all means push your agenda if you want, but if you are a hypocrite that does not practice what you preach that makes it all the more unpalatable to me.

It's projection though isn't it, you see people on BB do it all the time too, accuse other people of traits which they're clearly guilty of themselves

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's deflection though isn't it, you see people on BB do it all the time too, accuse other people of traits which they're clearly guilty of themselves

I don't really care. If you are actively going out of your way to chastise other people for living a lifestyle that you know deep down you are living out yourself (whether that be homosexuality, infidelity, fraud or whatever) then don't complain when People think badly of you.

Keep your mouth shut or maybe quietly tut when somebody brings it up, yeh fine whatever. But to stand on a pulpit or podium in front of an audience and speak to the masses about how wrong these activities are and actively shame people with it? I just find that distasteful sorry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I don't really care. If you are actively going out of your way to chastise other people for living a lifestyle that you know deep down you are living out yourself (whether that be homosexuality, infidelity, fraud or whatever) then don't complain when People think badly of you.

Keep your mouth shut or maybe quietly tut when somebody brings it up, yeh fine whatever. But to stand on a pulpit or podium in front of an audience and speak to the masses about how wrong these activities are and actively shame people with it? I just find that distasteful sorry.

Oh yeah I completely agree it makes it even worse of course

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

I do find it a little hilarious when some of the most fervent anti gay, traditional marriage pushing fundamentalist Christians get caught soliciting sex from men.

Or people like the Duggar kid who molested his sister, pushing traditional marriage and faithfulness before getting caught with his pants down on Ashley Maddison.

After it stops being funny though it makes me really angry. By all means push your agenda if you want, but if you are a hypocrite that does not practice what you preach that makes it all the more unpalatable to me.

You're okay mate being a tyke an all, but DON'T get LT on about religion.

[Northern Monkey]

Not sure if it's ever acceptable but i've seen it on here before.I got infracted for 'transphobic comments' ages ago,I think it was something to do with that Harries weirdo but then saw words like 'fag' and 'dyke' cropping up on here.unless it's like the thing with black people where only they can say the 'N' word.Idk.

[Kizzy]

I think that's where the phrase 'thou protesteth too much' come from isn't it? Those who bleat on about morals and such are usually those crushingly deficient.

[Josiah.]

I personally feel like the conversation in this thread has gone a bit too far.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

Basically there's a very messy situation with a guy in my year.

There's this guy in my year who was discovered to be Bisexual on the site tinder. However he doesn't know that everyone knows.

However, it surfaced that he'd previously 'came out' to one of my good friends anyway. The guy who is bi acts homophobic all the time, and I was saying to my friend that this made me lose respect for him as there's just no need.

My friend however said its ok because it's a defence mechanism. I was trying to say there shouldn't need to be any 'defence mechanism' yet my friends thinks that almost everyone is homophobic to a degree which I think is nonsense.

I personally don't believe homophobia should ever be condoned, especially in this situation.

considering he was just trying to fit in and protect himself it is acceptable.

You can only blame the straight people that created the homophobic environment where he felt like he had to be homophobic in order to not be abused.

If straight people were not homophobic around him would he have ever been homophobic? no. he's definitely a victim of his environment. it's not fair to blame a gay/bi person for homophobia that already existed.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by lostalex

considering he was just trying to fit in and protect himself it is acceptable.

You can only blame the straight people that created the homophobic environment where he felt like he had to be homophobic in order to not be abused.

If straight people were not homophobic around him would he have ever been homophobic? no. he's definitely a victim of his environment. it's not fair to blame a gay/bi person for homophobia that already existed.

The thing is though, I don't think our community is very homophobic. We're very diverse and accepting tbh - we had an openly gay person in our school last year.

Personally, I think he probably has homophobic parents - that's where this stuff normally comes from.

[Mystic Mock]

If you don't like a gay person then that's perfectly acceptable as you can't like everyone.

But I don't hold up with disliking a gay person and throwing homophobic insults at them, surely you can say other stuff about them than just their sexuality?