[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So if someone was to suggest christianity hated whatever no christians would have the right to be offended?

Who is your question directed to?

[Kizzy]

Nobody, just a non specific comment based on the thread so far.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't get it

I was admiring your oratory, a beautiful spiral of justification to show that Trump's contradictory statements are not contradictory in their contradictions. I was doing this by creating the allegory of a "goal", with you "saving" right on the line, thereby performing an "epic save" with your words.

It's almost right up there with...

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf his not saying Muslims though, his being very clever on his wording as he is describing the Religion itself rather than the Muslim followers.

The suggestion that Trump is being "very clever" and somehow invalidating rebuttal or retaliation by making sweeping statements about "Islam" instead of "Muslims" .

"Bah! I hate Christianity. Scummy religion full of judgement and hate, ruining the world with it's exclusivity and cultist manner. It really is the absolute dregs of religion and we should absolutely never trust Christianity!!

... Love Christians though ,wonderful folks."

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was admiring your oratory, a beautiful spiral of justification to show that Trump's contradictory statements are not contradictory in their contradictions. I was doing this by creating the allegory of a "goal", with you "saving" right on the line, thereby performing an "epic save" with your words.

It's almost right up there with...



The suggestion that Trump is being "very clever" and somehow invalidating rebuttal or retaliation by making sweeping statements about "Islam" instead of "Muslims" .

"Bah! I hate Christianity. Scummy religion full of judgement and hate, ruining the world with it's exclusivity and cultist manner. It really is the absolute dregs of religion and we should absolutely never trust Christianity!!

... Love Christians though ,wonderful folks."

Well probably 95% of people now admit that Iraq was a massive mistake but over 90% of MPs still voted for the UK to bomb ISIS in the country. A lot of people will also say that the Iraq invasion was a big mistake but not the action against the country in the Gulf war. I don't think its a contradiction to point out the obvious that not all military intervention is exactly the same.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well probably 95% of people now admit that Iraq was a massive mistake but over 90% of MPs still voted for the UK to bomb ISIS in the country. A lot of people will also say that the Iraq invasion was a big mistake but not the action against the country in the Gulf war. I don't think its a contradiction to point out the obvious that not all military intervention is exactly the same.

95% of people admit that Iraq was a mistake and a direct contributing factor on the rise of ISIS? Where are these people, and how can I join their forum, because the last time it came up on here that opinion was NOT popular at all.

[DemolitionRed]

Protestors prevent thousands from hearing Trump Speech
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ters/81671860/

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So if someone was to suggest christianity hated whatever no christians would have the right to be offended?

No because it's not about the followers and more to do with the people running the Religion.

[Kizzy]

'What is happening in this primary is just a distillation of what’s been happening inside their party for more than a decade. I mean, the reason that many of their voters are responding is because this is what’s been fed through the messages they’ve been sending for a long time — that you just make flat assertions that don’t comport with the facts. That you just deny the evidence of science. That compromise is a betrayal. That the other side isn’t simply wrong, or we just disagree, we want to take a different approach, but the other side is destroying the country, or treasonous. I mean, that’s — look it up. That’s what they’ve been saying.

So they can’t be surprised when somebody suddenly looks and says, you know what, I can do that even better. I can make stuff up better than that. I can be more outrageous than that. I can insult people even better than that. I can be even more uncivil. I mean, conservative outlets have been feeding their base constantly the notion that everything is a disaster, that everybody else is to blame, that Obamacare is destroying the country. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not. It’s not, we disagree with this program, we think we can do it better — it’s, oh, this is a crisis!
So if you don’t care about the facts, or the evidence, or civility, in general in making your arguments, you will end up with candidates who will say just about anything and do just about anything. And when your answer to every proposal that I make, or Democrats make is no, it means that you’ve got to become more and more unreasonable because that’s the only way you can say no to some pretty reasonable stuff. And then you shouldn’t be surprised when your party ultimately has no ideas to offer at all.'


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6928736.html