[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

And if a woman or several women are restraining you on the floor, kicking and punching you? How do you just 'walk away' then? If you hit someone, expect them to retaliate. Trying to make out women who are capable of punching others are this weak and vulnerable species which must be protected at all costs is patronising and condescending as ****

yes and if one has a thermo nuclear device or a cyborg arm with a death lazer that could be tricky too

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

I wasn't aware wanting to use a public toilet and being a man automatically made you a rapist,

Literally no one is saying that.

[T*]

IIRC aren't most gender neutral bathrooms just one toilet and sink, a la Disabled Toilets but without the disabled stuff?

[Ninastar]

I'm sorry but how many of you are actually female? You have no place to say whether a female should feel comfortable going to the toilet with men about. Christ, no one is bloody saying that all men are rapists. The whole point is whether you'd feel comfortable or not. People can't help it if they aren't happy with it. It's absolutely ridiculous and downright condescending to tell people they should just share toilets because 'nothing is going to happen.'

[Cal.]

Oh so now females are the only people who are allowed opinions on gender neutral toilets

[T*]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

No one is ever going to be happy with anything. That's life.

I don't agree with having only gender neutral bathrooms so that people have a choice. I think that's just wrong. In a perfect world we could have all three, but I don't see that ever happening.

Exactly my point
I think that public places should cater to gender neutral though, it'd be easier making them single-person bathrooms though

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Oh so now females are the only people who are allowed opinions on gender neutral toilets

I don't think that's what she meant...

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Oh so now females are the only people who are allowed opinions on gender neutral toilets

christ almighty its like talking to a brick wall

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

christ almighty its like talking to a brick wall

and in the old days at football matches thats all you got for a toilet

[Northern Monkey]

I don't see anything wrong with gender neutral toilets but one issue could arise.
I assume there would be no urinals?So what about drunk men who pee on the seat?Women won't like that.Unless there's a section with a small wall in there with urinals.So really a non neutral mens section.
Also what about used tampons on the floor?Men won't like that.Not massive issues but people won't like them too much.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't see anything wrong with gender neutral toilets but one issue could arise..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I don't see anything wrong with gender neutral toilets but one issue could arise.
I assume there would be no urinals?So what about drunk men who pee on the seat?Women won't like that.Unless there's a section with a small wall in there with urinals.So really a non neutral mens section.
Also what about used tampons on the floor?Men won't like that.Not massive issues but people won't like them too much.

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

[T*]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

you can flush ya gush?!!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Tom*

you can flush ya gush?!!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Tom*

you can flush ya gush?!!

Monkey is worried about tampons on the floor, I was reassuring him they can be flushed so it's unlikely he will encounter many

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Monkey is worried about tampons on the floor, I was reassuring him they can be flushed so it's unlikely he will encounter many

I grew up with two sisters and I learned this by one day walking into the toilet with a tampon in it that one of them had forgot to flush. It was disgusting.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tampons on the floor, you can flush them you know

I aint picking up no strangers used jamrags

[Tom4784]

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[Drew.]

This seems like such a pointless debate over something that doesn't need fixing. I've been to plenty of events where people drink a lot/theres groups of men just out to cause trouble to know that them being given the chance to roam free around a place where a woman needs privacy is a recipe for disaster. It's easy to say "you wouldn't be alone" but that doesn't matter, even in a group women are sill vulnerable. Anyway like i said this discussion just seems pointless, theres no need for gender neutral toilets and more harm than good would come from them anyway

[MTVN]

Also having urinals taken out of toilets would be a terrible thing, us men don't want to spend ages in queues like women have to

[Samm]

Yes I would, but I don't think they should become the norm, I'm all here for the transgendre movement and if they identify as female or male they should use whatever bathroom they want

but allowing a gender-neural bathroom is worrying for me since I wouldn't want any of my female friends or mum for example to use them because men would be lurking around and there's a lot of creeps out there.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Samm

Yes I would, but I don't think they should become the norm, I'm all here for the transgendre movement and if they identify as female or male they should use whatever bathroom they want

but allowing a gender-neural bathroom is worrying for me since I wouldn't want any of my female friends or mum for example to use them because men would be lurking around and there's a lot of creeps out there.

If men want to lurk around women in bathrooms, they'll do it with the split ones we have already since it's easier to act alone and not be caught. A sign above a door doesn't stop anyone from creeping about

tbh even I as a man would feel safer using a gender neutral bathroom than a men's only one

[DemolitionRed]

I don't like going into a room with urinals because they smell awful but when you have to go, you have to go.

In France nobody worries about guys using the ladies or ladies using the mens.

[AnnieK]

I personally would use them...in Manchester there are a few bars and clubs that already have them. With regards to issues of rape etc I would worry more that there could be more false accusations of assaults which will prove harder to disprove if all genders are using the same bathroom than of more attacks happening

[DemolitionRed]

There are many instances where little girls have to go into the men's room because they are out with daddy and are too young to go to the loo on their own. I think a father would feel more comfortable taking his daughter into a gender neutral toilet.

When my sons were old enough to go to the loo on their own, I always felt a little nervous about them using a male toilet of which I had no access to.

[Greg!]

ok lets just have segregated classrooms, restaurants, swimming pools, parks, and shops because some people feel uncomfortable being close to a certain gender

You're no more likely to be attacked in a toilet than anywhere else