[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is pretty huge.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I can see you peeking

[waterhog]

not even going to watch video - I disagree with this guy as I don't find him funny at all.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by waterhog

not even going to watch video - I disagree with this guy as I don't find him funny at all.

hes brilliant at playing the role of a deluded buffoon , strange that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mormonism and Scientology are two modern cults

the only difference betwixt them and say Judaism or Islam is time

[user104658]

If, starting tomorrow, every baby born was kept in the dark about religion (somehow) until reaching the age of being able to make a rational choice, organised religion would be dead in a generation. Simple as that really. It's kept alive through indoctrination, whether that be subtle low-level immersion from birth or harder conversion later in life.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If, starting tomorrow, every baby born was kept in the dark about religion (somehow) until reaching the age of being able to make a rational choice, organised religion would be dead in a generation. Simple as that really. It's kept alive through indoctrination, whether that be subtle low-level immersion from birth or harder conversion later in life.

I agree with you 100%. This would be a great social experiment would be fascinated to see the outcome of a target group raised with no religious affiliation and then exposed to a choice.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If, starting tomorrow, every baby born was kept in the dark about religion (somehow) until reaching the age of being able to make a rational choice, organised religion would be dead in a generation. Simple as that really. It's kept alive through indoctrination, whether that be subtle low-level immersion from birth or harder conversion later in life.

yes I cant really see young people in their 20s going "hey have you heard about Judaism, i think Im going to get a piece of that bronze age middle eastern cult"

[the truth]

wow so many people here conditioned and brainwashed into radical atheism....these people should have been allowed free choice

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by the truth

wow so many people here conditioned and brainwashed into radical atheism....these people should have been allowed free choice

I blame my parents lack of religious indoctrination skills.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I blame my parents lack of religious indoctrination skills.

Same, they failed in their quest although tbh I don't think their own hearts were really in it either

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

wow so many people here conditioned and brainwashed into radical atheism....these people should have been allowed free choice

I was sent to Sunday School and learned all about Jesus and friends, actually. I just figured out that it was a story eventually. Around the time I stopped believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy, I would imagine.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was sent to Sunday School and learned all about Jesus and friends, actually. I just figured out that it was a story eventually. Around the time I stopped believing in Santa and the Tooth Fairy, I would imagine.

yes nothing to learn at all in , sounds like a mis-spent youth..those horrible sunday schools telling stories and raising money for their communities and singing songs about peace and love....theyll be sending missionaries out next to cloth and feed the starving millions...appalling....if only our kids had all started drink and drugs instead

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

yes nothing to learn at all in , sounds like a mis-spent youth..those horrible sunday schools telling stories and raising money for their communities and singing songs about peace and love....theyll be sending missionaries out next to cloth and feed the starving millions...appalling....if only our kids had all started drink and drugs instead

Usual issue you have with it truth and my response is the same as ever: the fact that many churches do many good things, does not make any of the fairytales true. Wanting something to be real does not make it so.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Usual issue you have with it truth and my response is the same as ever: the fact that many churches do many good things, does not make any of the fairytales true. Wanting something to be real does not make it so.

what does it matter if its true or not if it saves billions?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Usual issue you have with it truth and my response is the same as ever: the fact that many churches do many good things, does not make any of the fairytales true. Wanting something to be real does not make it so.

: laugh:

And just in case anyone missed the others:



The Cumaen Sibyl? The Delphian Oracle? Cassandra? Who the hell are THEY?

We have our very own, all seeing, all knowing, Oracle on Tibb, and now that you have absolutely decreed that all religions are based upon 'fairytales', and emphatically answered THE greatest enigma ever to perplex the greatest philosophers throughout mankind's history - whether God exists or not - we can ALL be enlightened.

But your decree creates a further enigma in my mind:

Does your 'Scientific Rationalism' only apply where it suits your own agenda?

I mean;

Has 'science' categorically PROVEN that God does NOT exist? Err...... NO.

Is 'science' continually PROVING that many of the narratives in both the Old AND New Testaments are based on some FACT? Err...... YES.

The answer to the first question above, renders your 'statement' then, in the post I have quoted, no MORE than mere OPINION, no more or less credible than anyone else's opinion - Believers or non-Believers.

And - unless, YOU are the very omnipotent God whom you spend so much time denying in your posts - it is an opinion no more qualified than most other people's, and one which is CERTAINLY a lot less qualified than some --- In MY opinion, of course.

[Kizzy]

There are so many wonders though that are totally ignored by cherry picking religions, you can't ignore the need to record and pass on knowledge from milennia ago.. I hate that that is manipulated to exploit

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There are so many wonders though that are totally ignored by cherry picking religions, you can't ignore the need to record and pass on knowledge from milennia ago.. I hate that that is manipulated to exploit

yes look at the last sentence in the Christian Bible

tells you all you need to know

smh

[Niamh.]

This article explains it well I think

Northern Ireland was provisioned as a separate territory in 1922. This point of contention between England and the Republic of Ireland turned habitually violent in 1969 with the formation of the IRA (Irish Republican Army), a terror group that was considered to be the armed wing of the Sinn Fein political party, which supports Irish nationalism and Marxist ideology. The violence abated in the mid-1990's with an agreement between the sides.

Although it's popular to think of this chapter in the conflict as Catholic versus Protestant, it is also simplistic and misleading. The IRA does not stand for "Catholic Army." Historians and political scientists usually describe the two sides with words like Nationalist, Republican, Ulster, Loyalist and Unionist. Even the religious sectarian labels often did not hold up. Protestants were found on both sides of the conflict, for example, and there were notable Catholics who remained loyal to England.

The IRA did not have a Biblical charter. In fact, they were a Marxist-atheist organization. Neither did the British government have religious motives, nor any of the other major groups. There were some smaller, radical groups that used the language of religious purity, but they were relatively obscure. The issue for the "Catholic" factions was Irish nationalism, and for the "Protestants" it was self-preservation and an end to the violence. Only a very small minority of the citizens in Northern Ireland actually participated in the conflict, although the grief was spread among many.

Church leaders on both sides routinely condemned the violence - in fact, the Catholic church excommunicated members of the IRA. The claims of responsibility for the bombings and assassinations did not typically quote from the Bible or make reference to God. (Muslim terrorists quote liberally from the Quran in their statements, and are very explicit about their battle for the cause of Islam).

Neither was there any expressed interest on the part of either side in the Northern Ireland conflict to convert unbelievers or spread sectarian beliefs beyond the disputed area. Protestant clerics in Ireland weren't targeted by Irish Catholics (for being clerics) and neither were priests in England by English Protestants. Religious affiliation was a loose marker of identity, but there were no glaring theological differences between Protestants and Catholics on which the conflict was specifically based. Rather it was political in nature.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/p...ira-islam.aspx

[bots]

Some schools will have a good science department and therfore champion it an encourage pupils into studying those subjects. Other schools are noted for their sporting achievements, and so give preference to it over other things when the situation arises.

What I'm trying to say is that every school has an inherent agenda in whatever area you would like to investigate. Where does one start in making things fair for all, because its not, and it never will be.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Some schools will have a good science department and therfore champion it an encourage pupils into studying those subjects. Other schools are noted for their sporting achievements, and so give preference to it over other things when the situation arises.

What I'm trying to say is that every school has an inherent agenda in whatever area you would like to investigate. Where does one start in making things fair for all, because its not, and it never will be.

..yeah totally, different schools will have things that suit specific children which might take a child out of catchment area to attend that school but they don't have 'trends' though like this, in the way they're governed and a specific religion/belief factoring into it so it can't really be compared at all in the same way....there is an ocean of difference between..'that school can't offer my child...' and 'that school won't accept my child...'....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id like to see a united Ireland


Then we could tow it off into the atlantic a bit as its way, way too close

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Id like to see a united Ireland


Then we could tow it off into the atlantic a bit as its way, way too close

[Marsh.]

It's always the atheists that are the experts on religion around here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's always the atheists that are the experts on religion around here.

Usually because they have thought about it and investigated it more

hence the reason they do not believe in gods


But remember that even the ones who say they have a "faith" are atheist to 99.9% of all other gods