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Denver · 27-01-2017, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No one said anything about a great future being in the EU, just a stable one.

Speaking personally for myself, having the Tories having full control over this country terrifies me as I'm in the Working class spectrum and we all know how this party treats the working class and our Human Rights before the EU was how it is today, and even then it's still hard work for them to curb the Tories into following the basic Human Rights that the EU asks for us to follow.

Btw I'm not talking about the European Court of Human Rights as that's a seperate entity.

Theresa May is a fair leader she is mot like the other Tories she genuinley cares about everybody

user104658 · 27-01-2017, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Theresa May is a fair leader she is mot like the other Tories she genuinley cares about everybody

jaxie · 27-01-2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

No one said anything about a great future being in the EU, just a stable one.

Speaking personally for myself, having the Tories having full control over this country terrifies me as I'm in the Working class spectrum and we all know how this party treats the working class and our Human Rights before the EU was how it is today, and even then it's still hard work for them to curb the Tories into following the basic Human Rights that the EU asks for us to follow.

Btw I'm not talking about the European Court of Human Rights as that's a seperate entity.

Having unelected EU beaurocrats having full control of this country for 40 years terrified me. Their treatment of Greece and other countries the EU project is bankrupting terrified me. Their lack of compromise and flexibility is particularly terrifying. Even more terrifying is the illusion that all our human rights and workers rights are so dependent on the EU that we will have none without it.

The lack of information and knowledge about the EU and the fact we've often led the way with regard the rights of our people EU or not amazes me from people who want it so desperately. Like another regular author on this forum you seem under illusion we had no rights before the EU and any we had were not good enough and were cancelled by the EU or that we had no part in making any of the rights that came from the EU.

Worrying about the Tories and human rights is paranoia. They are a government and can be held accountable. If you are afraid of a conservative government get involved in politics and try to help labour get their act together.

If you want something real to worry about, worry about the fact that human beings sleep rough in our cities every night in 2017 and every year previously whoever the government is.

Northern Monkey · 27-01-2017, 06:35 AM

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I still don't get how a very slim majority (most of the Brexiters being older generations) can dictate all of the terms to 48% of the country (which most of the Remainers being the younger generation) I know it's a very controversial statement that I'm making here but shouldn't there be some give and take in such a strong vote? Especially considering the younger generations will be living in a society that most of us didn't even ask for.

That's how a referendum works?

The young people who wanted to remain should've really got off their butts and gone out and voted.Many didn't and then complain about the result.

user104658 · 27-01-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

That's how a referendum works?

The young people who wanted to remain should've really got off their butts and gone out and voted.Many didn't and then complain about the result.

A referendum is one question, not a badge of authority to shut down ALL further discussion of any related issue, much as some seem to wish was the case. The same people who think that using the word "remoaner" is a good tactic to "embarrass" people into not sharing their opinions.

jaxie · 27-01-2017, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A referendum is one question, not a badge of authority to shut down ALL further discussion of any related issue, much as some seem to wish was the case. The same people who think that using the word "remoaner" is a good tactic to "embarrass" people into not sharing their opinions.

Or a badge to keep threatening the UK with, nor a repeating process until you get the result you want. Someone needs to explain all this to Nicola, not the one in the BB house, the other one.

Unsure why anyone would be so embarrassed by the word remoaner they wouldn't want to share an opinion. Sounds very thin skinned if true. At best it's a little rude, it's certainly softer and a lot more comical than the insults heaped on those of us who wanted to leave. I've seen far worse implied on this forum. I've been told in this very thread I'm not capable of debate.

user104658 · 27-01-2017, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

Or a badge to keep threatening the UK with, nor a repeating process until you get the result you want. Someone needs to explain all this to Nicola, not the one in the BB house, the other one.

Unsure why anyone would be so embarrassed by the word remoaner they wouldn't want to share an opinion. Sounds very thin skinned if true. At best it's a little rude, it's certainly softer and a lot more comical than the insults heaped on those of us who wanted to leave. I've seen far worse implied on this forum. I've been told in this very thread I'm not capable of debate.

I said that some people seem to THINK that it's a good tactic to shut people up... not that it actually IS a good tactic

. I can't imagine it ever gets much reaction beyond a big ol' yawn.

Tom4784 · 27-01-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

Or a badge to keep threatening the UK with, nor a repeating process until you get the result you want. Someone needs to explain all this to Nicola, not the one in the BB house, the other one.

Unsure why anyone would be so embarrassed by the word remoaner they wouldn't want to share an opinion. Sounds very thin skinned if true. At best it's a little rude, it's certainly softer and a lot more comical than the insults heaped on those of us who wanted to leave. I've seen far worse implied on this forum. I've been told in this very thread I'm not capable of debate.

'Sounds very thin skinned if true.'

Brillopad · 27-01-2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A referendum is one question, not a badge of authority to shut down ALL further discussion of any related issue, much as some seem to wish was the case. The same people who think that using the word "remoaner" is a good tactic to "embarrass" people into not sharing their opinions.

They should'nt dish it out if they can't take it, you don't seem to object when it's the other way round - it's called bias.

jaxie · 27-01-2017, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

They should'nt dish it out if they can't take it, you don't seem to object when it's the other way round - it's called bias.

Nicely put.

Kizzy · 27-01-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad

They should'nt dish it out if they can't take it, you don't seem to object when it's the other way round - it's called bias.

well we have remainiacs and remoaners, what is the slur for the vote leave camp?

The brextwunts?...brexwanks? I can't think of one.

Tom4784 · 27-01-2017, 07:19 PM

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They should'nt dish it out if they can't take it, you don't seem to object when it's the other way round - it's called bias.

Yes! How dare they have an opinion that doesn't match with yours! Only people who agree with you deserve an opinion! Everything else is a personal attack on you and is bias! Opposing opinions are a DISEASE.

Denver · 27-01-2017, 01:46 AM

I can tell you for fact Bulgaria will be next out because they are not happy about the level of debt the EU has brought them.

France and Italy will soon be gone with countries like Hungary following

Mystic Mock · 27-01-2017, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

I can tell you for fact Bulgaria will be next out because they are not happy about the level of debt the EU has brought them.

France and Italy will soon be gone with countries like Hungary following

I think that alot of countries are using the EU as an excuse because the people don't want to blame their leaders for being incompetent on certain issues that people want fixed. And I also think that the leaders latch onto the EU being the big bad so that themselves don't get criticised over letting in too many Immigrants, being too soft on Law & Order, and not distributing enough money out evenly to the middle and working classes in these countries.

the truth · 27-01-2017, 12:28 PM

the bremaniacs are profoundly anti economic

user104658 · 27-01-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth

the bremaniacs are profoundly anti economic

Not idly do the Leaves of Lórien fall

Withano · 27-01-2017, 01:33 PM

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the bremaniacs are profoundly anti economic

Cute braniac play-on-word there. Is that because remain are significantly more likely to be graduates statistically, or cos we were right about many negative Brexit effects?