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Brillopad · 17-03-2017, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'd say more oblong....

Maybe I'm being unfair, maybe some brains are square or oblong.

Northern Monkey · 17-03-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

The world is square and that's the end of it

I think you'll find that it is infact actually an oblate ellipsoid in actual fact

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 02:31 PM

You know, I do find it odd how against a Scottish Indy ref English people seem to be. I mean... You don't live here and therefore aren't affected by it directly... And APPARENTLY Scotland is nothing but a drain on UK funds being propped up by the English taxpayer... So why so against it? Why are you so bothered by it?

Is it simply because you find the notion that a large chunk of Scottish people don't want to be a part of Precious Britain offensive? Is it a "How dare you!" thing?

Cherie · 17-03-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know, I do find it odd how against a Scottish Indy ref English people seem to be. I mean... You don't live here and therefore aren't affected by it directly... And APPARENTLY Scotland is nothing but a drain on UK funds being propped up by the English taxpayer... So why so against it? Why are you so bothered by it?

Is it simply because you find the notion that a large chunk of Scottish people don't want to be a part of Precious Britain offensive? Is it a "How dare you!" thing?

Unfortunately you have misread the situation, happy for you to have it, just don't want it to be a distraction during the Brexit it talks, better together once we don't suffer because of your antics

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Unfortunately you have misread the situation, happy for you to have it, just don't want it to be a distraction during the Brexit it talks, better together once we don't suffer because of your antics

Ohhh so you want to keep hold of your vassal until you can secure a better deal for yourselves, and then it doesn't matter any more, even if it's detrimental to Scotland to wait until after full Brexit to break away. Gotcha.

Cherie · 17-03-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Ohhh so you want to keep hold of your vassal until you can secure a better deal for yourselves, and then it doesn't matter any more, even if it's detrimental to Scotland to wait until after full Brexit to break away. Gotcha.

I want the best deal for the UK, once that is done you can stay or you can go, it makes no odds to the majority of people south of the border

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I want the best deal for the UK, once that is done you can stay or you can go, it makes no odds to the majority of people south of the border

Why would this be of concern to anyone in Scotland who wants Scottish independence? Get your own deal on your own merits, stop exploiting other countries to prop yourself up. I know that's hard for a nation rooted in empire but still. Try.

jaxie · 17-03-2017, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know, I do find it odd how against a Scottish Indy ref English people seem to be. I mean... You don't live here and therefore aren't affected by it directly... And APPARENTLY Scotland is nothing but a drain on UK funds being propped up by the English taxpayer... So why so against it? Why are you so bothered by it?

Is it simply because you find the notion that a large chunk of Scottish people don't want to be a part of Precious Britain offensive? Is it a "How dare you!" thing?

We're like cats, it's ours. But seriously, I've always thought of Scotland as part of our country, it seems bizarre to think otherwise. I also have Scottish rellies and they don't want to be independent. They are pretty sick and tired of the whole issue. However if the majority of Scottish people and not just the SNP want another referendum at some point they should have one. This is definitely not the time to give it due and appropriate attention.

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All the London comparisons really do is confirm that certain people in England see Scotland simply as a region of England, and not a separate country.

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But seriously, I've always thought of Scotland as part of our country, it seems bizarre to think otherwise.

Oh look, there we go.

jaxie · 17-03-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Oh look, there we go.

I can't help it that you don't think of the union as one nation, but that's more or less where we have been at for 300 years.

I've been kind of shocked by the anti English hate from apparent Scots on the net. I never thought of it as being that way.

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

I can't help it that you don't think of the union as one nation, but that's more or less where we have been at for 300 years.

I've been kind of shocked by the anti English hate from apparent Scots on the net. I never thought of it as being that way.

There is no anti English hate from me. My wife is English. I am in England at this very second. I have nothing, at all, against English people.

I am against Westminster rule of Scotland and against the idea that Scotland is owned by, or part of, England. I think it is detrimental to Scotland and to Scottish people.

Read through this thread again and tell me that there isn't a strong anti-Scottish sentiment from several English members

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jaxie · 17-03-2017, 04:43 PM

You are seriously clutching if you think some of what you quoted there is anti Scottish. I agree some of it is rude but I've seen you be just as rude TS.

I am sorry if you think that my not losing sleep should Scotland choose to go is offensive. I could always set up an alarm one night if it helps. Far be it from me to sleep well if someone else makes a decision to leave.

user104658 · 17-03-2017, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie

You are seriously clutching if you think some of what you quoted there is anti Scottish. I agree some of it is rude but I've seen you be just as rude TS.

I am sorry if you think that my not losing sleep should Scotland choose to go is offensive. I could always set up an alarm one night if it helps. Far be it from me to sleep well if someone else makes a decision to leave.

I obviously wouldn't expect you to lose sleep, nor do I expect anyone to care about it if they're not inclined to, but specifically going out if your way to say so is quite clearly a pointed comment. Let's not play games, it's tedious.

jaxie · 17-03-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I obviously wouldn't expect you to lose sleep, nor do I expect anyone to care about it if they're not inclined to, but specifically going out if your way to say so is quite clearly a pointed comment. Let's not play games, it's tedious.

Well you are taking the comment out of context anyway. I was responding at the time implications that it mattered to me in some way beyond the expression of opinions.

You keep talking about games and agendas. I am someone posting in a discussion forum. What on Earth would I have to gain from games or agendas in those circumstances. All the accusations are pretty tedious.