[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Did I? You'll have to forgive me, I'm becoming rather forgetful in my old age. Where is it? Could you point it out to me?

You are predicting attacks will become more widespread when there is no evidence to back that up. There was a joint Britain First/EDL march in London last week which attracted about 200 people, and that's a week after a terrorist attack, its likely the attack in Croydon was gang related rather than motivated by any patriotic view.


Hate crime reportage might be on the increase but what exactly is being reported, I could ring up and claim you are calling me a thick paddy and that would go down as a hate crime, it's all about keeping perspective on both sides

[Withano]

I love that the crowdfunding page has 44k on it
But only 2.3k contributors? Someone must have donated tens of thousands alone, who was this person/organisation?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

I love that the crowdfunding page has 44k on it
But only 2.3k contributors? Someone must have donated tens of thousands alone, who was this person/organisation?

If you divide 44k by 2.3k it works out to less than £20

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If you divide 44k by 2.3k it works out to less than £20

Yeah I just worked that out after I posted haha

[Withano]

comment from a relative on that funding page is pretty interesting

Friends, I as Rekar's relative we all know that this bad behavior of this group who attacked Rekar doesn't define the vast majority of British people. those people who attacked Rekar and done such a crime are not only hate different religious, ethics and nationalities but they also hate UK itself!! UK government should treat this case as a terror attack!!

[Withano]

The boys mother doesnt even know

I am his relative , his brother just visited him in the Hospital and he phoned me and also told me Rekar is still alive but the wonds made him hopeless and his life is in danger he may lose his memory and mind, and for all of you here i don't dare to tell his mother such a heart breakibg news, she has heart attack if i tell her about Rekar , she may get sick or worse that i pretend ... for all of you who you donated even £1 you really showed up the meaning of humanity!! God bless you all...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yeah I just worked that out after I posted haha

Look before you leap Withano

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Look before you leap Withano

Wont you always be there to catch me?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Wont you always be there to catch me?

Of Course

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are predicting attacks will become more widespread when there is no evidence to back that up.

you claimed that I said;

[quote]

Originally Posted by Cherie

attacks on Asylum seekers and immigrants will be carried out by a large number of the British public

That's not the same thing at all. I do not think that a "large number" of the British public will (openly) physically or verbally attack asylum seekers.

I do think that the ever increasing post-Brexit anti-immigration sentiment and rhetoric will filter down into a more hateful population, and a population more accepting of hatred, in which the likelihood of people being attacked by the SMALL number of people inclined to do so will be increased.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

you claimed that I said;



That's not the same thing at all. I do not think that a "large number" of the British public will (openly) physically or verbally attack asylum seekers.

I do think that the ever increasing post-Brexit anti-immigration sentiment and rhetoric will filter down into a more hateful population, and a population more accepting of hatred, in which the likelihood of people being attacked by the SMALL number of people inclined to do so will be increased.

I don't think so, I think the people who voted Brexit are made up of predominantly of the Doreen and Derek generation who have seen their communities change completely, or whose hip operations have, been cancelled for the 5th time who thought the NHS was going to be minted, People who got on board because of Boris, people who believe the DM, business owners who feel they can be stronger outside Europe, people who voted leave thinking it would never happen, an anti establishment vote, and finally far right voters, the majority of Brexiteers aren't going to give anyone a kicking, they might have a moan down the shops and come home and accept a curry from their neighbour not really putting two and two together that their neighbour is a person they voted to leave...

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

comment from a relative on that funding page is pretty interesting

Friends, I as Rekar's relative we all know that this bad behavior of this group who attacked Rekar doesn't define the vast majority of British people. those people who attacked Rekar and done such a crime are not only hate different religious, ethics and nationalities but they also hate UK itself!! UK government should treat this case as a terror attack!!

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

Different papers having conflicting information has never been uncommon lol. The bloke on that funding page said the brother saw him in Hospital.
Although perhaps brother doesnt mean sibling in this context.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

According to an article in the Guardian he has no relatives in Britain and the authorities are trying to track down relatives in Iran.

If different papers are getting conflicting information from these so-called 'relatives' how can anything they say be believed. All sounds rather odd.

Was there not picture of him and his brother in England which suggests his brother lives here

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Was there not picture of him and his brother in England which suggests his brother lives her

I don't know, I did see a picture of someone supposed to be his brother in a DM article but a different story in the Guardian.

Maybe the so-called family are giving mixed messages, which seems strange. Don't know what to think tbh.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't know, I did see a picture of someone supposed to be his brother in a DM article but a different story in the Guardian.

Maybe the so-called family are giving mixed messages, which seems strange. Don't know what to think tbh.

More likely the reporters are getting inaccurate messages from his friends and colleagues.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

More likely the reporters are getting inaccurate messages from his friends and colleagues.

Possibly, but with all the issues with asylum seekers across Europe maybe the inconsistencies are coming from them and if so why? A lot of child asylum seekers have lied about their age for instance - I just find it a bit suspicious.

What happened to him was terrible but that doesn't mean he and his 'family' are beyond reproach.

There may be a reasonable explanation but I would like to know what that is.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There may be a reasonable explanation but I would like to know what that is.

Modern media is untrustworthy? Their main source of revenue is online advertisements? the easiest way to get this is to create a **** load of articles? The fastest way to do this is by doing little research? The most effective way to do this is with clickbaity titles?
No wait. Must be something to do with the asylum seekers dodgy family.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Modern media is untrustworthy? Their main source of revenue is online advertisements? the easiest way to get this is to create a **** load of articles? The fastest way to do this is by doing little research? The most effective way to do this is with clickbaity titles?
No wait. Must be something to do with the asylum seekers dodgy family.

Of course, it couldn't possibly be the asylum seeker and/or his family - how could anyone possibly even wonder about that.

[Livia]

Of course, the question could be, we are not at war with Iran, why are we giving Iranians asylum?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course, the question could be, we are not at war with Iran, why are we giving Iranians asylum?

Good point.