[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not enough men come forward to warrant as many shelters as women and that's purely down to the prison that is masculinity and, regardless of Truth's attempts to find reasons to blame women for everything, it's a prison of men's own making. Not many men will admit to being abused because they see it as an attack on their masculinity and they think it makes them look weak and that they'll be ridiculed by others. If you want more men's shelters then you need to change the way men think so they'll be more likely to come forward and justify the need for more shelters.

I'd say you need to change the way people think, the outdated attitudes about male abuse are held by both men and women. I agree that what you say definitely applies to some, but I don't think the whole "self made prison of masculinity" applies in all cases. Some of them won't be speaking out for the very same reason some female victims don't, fear of their abuser and others won't because of the ideas other people (both male and female) put out there about how ridiculous the idea of male domestic abuse is.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'd say you need to change the way people think, the outdated attitudes about male abuse are held by both men and women. I agree that what you say definitely applies to some, but I don't think the whole "self made prison of masculinity" applies in all cases. Some of them won't be speaking out for the very same reason some female victims don't, fear of their abuser and others won't because of the ideas other people (both male and female) put out there about how ridiculous the idea of male domestic abuse is.

It's not a blanket statement and yes, some women do spread the stereotype but the fact that male domestic abuse goes unreported mostly a problem created by men's attitudes to masculinity, the idea that they are somehow less 'manly' if they suffer abuse is the driving force behind the silence. I do agree that attitudes need changing but the attitudes of men need to change first and everything else will follow on from that.

[Kizzy]

There does need to be a 2/7 advice line and I would say that would be in the main more needed for the LBGQT community.

[the truth]

over 70% of the homeless are men. of course they need shelter. they're dying or killing themselves on the streets but their lives matter less because they are men

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

over 70% of the homeless are men. of course they need shelter. they're dying or killing themselves on the streets but their lives matter less because they are men

Homeless shelters and D shelters are totally different things though.

I do agree we need more homeless shelters in the first place and should be working to get rid of homelessness alltogether. Its a disgrace that so many are homeless in this country.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Homeless shelters and D shelters are totally different things though.

I do agree we need more homeless shelters in the first place and should be working to get rid of homelessness alltogether. Its a disgrace that so many are homeless in this country.

more shelters and refuges for the tens of thousands of men with no roof no home no hope and suicide as their only escape

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

more shelters and refuges for the tens of thousands of men with no roof no home no hope and suicide as their only escape

Take it to the government... the ones responsible for letting this happen.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Take it to the government... the ones responsible for letting this happen.

Im taking it to you too to shout for men who are the the vats majority of victims , 5 times the suicide rate of women, die 5 years younger , make up over 70% of the homeless and drug users and yet get less than 50 times less support...You are angry about the homeless Are you also angry about this lack of help for males in particular who are neglected infinitely more by the system than women?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

more shelters and refuges for the tens of thousands of men with no roof no home no hope and suicide as their only escape

More homeless shelters in general, but preferably less people ending up homeless in the first place. The amount of people on the street is increasing by the day and that is just completely ****ing wrong. Noone in a developed country like the UK should be living on the streets. Same with foodbanks and the likes tbh. I find it shocking that so many have to use them too.

And the answer to the amount of people on the streets? Putting ****ing spikes in places they could shelter to sleep. Great. Also fining people for being homeless...just a joke

Obviously some people are 'beyond help'...addicts and such who have been helped in the past and just continue to self destruct and end up back on the streets. But so many people who are homeless are just normal people who fell on hard times. Apparently a load of the country are 1 payday away from being homeless themselves

[Tom4784]

We definitely do need more homeless shelters but that has nothing to do with male domestic shelters and, if you insist on changing the goalposts, there are no reason to specify only men in issues of homelessness as it's an issue that affects both genders. The reason for separate Domestic abuse shelters for men and women are obvious but that's not the case for homeless shelters.

Truth, if you honestly care about the homeless then you'd want more homeless shelters in general, not more shelters just for men.