[Alf]

He was obviously used for the remain campaign. Grieving widower of remain politician tragically murdered.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

He was obviously used for the remain campaign. Grieving widower of remain politician tragically murdered.

Well it didn't make a difference , we still left .

[Kizzy]

The difference of course being they were actual messages and not an allegation he wrote a message, there is a difference.

Maybe it would've been better for him if he had gone through the appropriate disciplinary procedures in 2015, even if it would have been politically embarrassing for his wife, it would have prevented all this did he/ didn't he today?

[Beso]

Luckily he is not donald trump, therefore the left will shut up and sweep it under the carpet rather than climb on a padastool to begin the rancid hate mongering of the individual.

[joeysteele]

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

No one is forcing you to stay, sounds like you could do with a long break...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is forcing you to stay, sounds like you could do with a long break...

I'm well aware 'no one' is forcing me to stay on here.

However and greatly thankfully I don't need nor want, any sarcastic or otherwise advice from 'you' whatsoever.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm well aware 'no one' is forcing me to stay on here.

However and greatly thankfully I don't need nor want, any sarcastic or otherwise advice from 'you' whatsoever.

No need to snap

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

Ah I'm ignoring the pitchfork waving now, it's shocking isn't it one unsubstantiated accusation has effectively brought down 2 charities and further decimated a family already reeling, nice job gutter press.

What's in todays news?...Damian ( I haven't done anything wrong!) Green still in denial following an inquiry by the propriety and ethics team :/
Double standards.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

You really don't think Kizzy is making excuses for his behaviour?

I haven't seen a single comment casting aspersions at his wife, other than to say that when she was murdered she didn't suddenly become a saint, which is factually correct unless you know otherwise?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You really don't think Kizzy is making excuses for his behaviour?

I haven't seen a single comment casting aspersions at his wife, other than to say that when she was murdered she didn't suddenly become a saint, which is factually correct unless you know otherwise?

No I don't.

I think Kizzy is pointing out some hypocrisy here.
That Cox has said he has overstepped the mark but he has also strenuously denied, more serious allegations.
While some others who were forced to leave their positions on the other political side,who got nothing like the acidic comments Cox is getting.
Yet they are still denying doing anything wrong.

It is not actually my place or yours in fact,to talk about other members to another member.
You have chosen so to do with me so I trust Kizzy will now not mind when I clearly state,I think for her views,the vitriol she gets here when she posts,is beyond a joke now.

[jet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No I don't.

I think Kizzy is pointing out some hypocrisy here.
That Cox has said he has overstepped the mark but he has also strenuously denied, more serious allegations.
While some others who were forced to leave their positions on the other political side,who got nothing like the acidic comments Cox is getting.
Yet they are still denying doing anything wrong.

It is not actually my place or yours in fact,to talk about other members to another member.
You have chosen so to do with me so I trust Kizzy will now not mind when I clearly state,I think for her views,the vitriol she gets here when she posts,is beyond a joke now.

If one continuously defends and makes excuses for unsavoury characters, then comeback should be expected and taken on the chin.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by jet

If one continuously defends and makes excuses for unsavoury characters, then comeback should be expected and taken on the chin.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

If one continuously defends and makes excuses for unsavoury characters, then comeback should be expected and taken on the chin.

Yeah pretty much this .
And even if you play devil's Advocate Brendan still left the charity so clearly something happened he's NOT PROUD OF hence he still did something wrong .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

If one continuously defends and makes excuses for unsavoury characters, then comeback should be expected and taken on the chin.

Have you maybe a contribution to the issue of the thread re Cox and his situation.
Or are you just joining others in a roll against a particular member.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You really don't think Kizzy is making excuses for his behaviour?

I haven't seen a single comment casting aspersions at his wife, other than to say that when she was murdered she didn't suddenly become a saint, which is factually correct unless you know otherwise?

What behaviour?... I'm attempting to maintain some perspective here is all.

The guy is being demonised here ...for what?

Joey is referring to a silly trolling comment at the beginning of the thread in relation to Jo Cox I think.

[Kizzy]

Haha I love how this thread has flipped... Oh boo hoo us poor men!!!! hahahaha

[Kizzy]

Hey Lolita Hey!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hey Lolita Hey!

That movie is messed up

[Vicky.]

I don't know much about this Aled Jones thing, looking it up now but the first few links are all about him issuing a 'grovelling apology' and admitting sexual harassment and saying he understands the victim/s was distressed by his behaviour. Looking more into it now, but again, it appears this was not nothing. Like in this Cox case.

Edit. LOL. A quote from one of the stories

The singer's mother-in-law, Elaine Fossett, has said he is incapable of sexual harassment.

The 74-year-old said: 'It is utterly, utterly appalling. A nicer, nicer guy you couldn’t wish to meet. He is totally incapable of sexual harassment.'

'Incapable' of sexual harassment ffs. Noone is incapable. Do these people think its only flat out monsters and dark alley rapists that behave inappropriately or something? And he is hardly likely to be behaving inappropriately towards his mother in law anyway..so this 'defence' is silly

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't know much about this Aled Jones thing, looking it up now but the first few links are all about him issuing a 'grovelling apology' and admitting sexual harassment and saying he understands the victim/s was distressed by his behaviour. Looking more into it now, but again, it appears this was not nothing. Like in this Cox case.

But i still don't understand what alleged "harassment" took place with Aled . The story sounded silly , and even if he's done nothing wrong he'd probably still apologise to be the bigger person .

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But i still don't understand what alleged "harassment" took place with Aled . The story sounded silly , and even if he's done nothing wrong he'd probably still apologise to be the bigger person .

But then earlier about Cox

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The fact he's admitted he's overstepped the line just shows he's guilty .

Which has me a little confused tbh. Either admitting it (and apologising) shows they are guilty, or it doesn't. Or does it depend on who is involved?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But then earlier about Cox



Which has me a little confused tbh. Either admitting it (and apologising) shows they are guilty, or it doesn't. Or does it depend on who is involved?

I didn't contradict myself if that's what you're insinuating . I'm saying the incident with Aled Jones still makes no sense to me , how do we know he didn't say sorry while still being innocent??? .

Brendan Cox has admitted it , and more details have come out about him . Whereas with Aled it's more like a silly rumour .

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I didn't contradict myself if that's what you're insinuating . I'm saying the incident with Aled Jones still makes no sense to me , how do we know he didn't say sorry while still being innocent??? .

Brendan Cox has admitted it , and more details have come out about him . Whereas with Aled it's more like a silly rumour .

They both admitted it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But then earlier about Cox



Which has me a little confused tbh. Either admitting it (and apologising) shows they are guilty, or it doesn't. Or does it depend on who is involved?

Also i didn't know Aled jones "apologised" either , all i saw was an old article about it . I never saw anything else about him .