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Jamie89 · 07-04-2018, 07:53 PM

Genuine question but what even is 'the conversation'? If it's just about gay people existing (nothing to do with sex) I don't understand what the conversation would involve?

Oliver_W · 07-04-2018, 07:57 PM

Hoe White?

user104658 · 07-04-2018, 08:21 PM

Sleeping Beauty: A Lesson In Consent

Oliver_W · 07-04-2018, 08:21 PM

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Sleeping Beauty: A Lesson In Consent

Oh god, that sounds like it could be a real article on some trash site like Jezebel or Hustler

user104658 · 07-04-2018, 08:38 PM

There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

Oliver_W · 07-04-2018, 08:40 PM

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There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

ShaneJ and India Willoghby to play the Ugly Stepsisters?

Ammi · 08-04-2018, 04:38 AM

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ShaneJ and India Willoghby to play the Ugly Stepsisters?

...would that be stepsisters or stepcisters I wonder...

Cherie · 07-04-2018, 09:31 PM

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There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

Bloody hell

Shaun · 07-04-2018, 09:34 PM

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There could be a promiscuous gay version of Cinderella, except instead of a glass slipper, the Prince swabs a sample of cum from his arsehole and goes on a quest to match the DNA.

Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

montblanc · 07-04-2018, 09:35 PM

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Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

Nicky91 · 09-04-2018, 07:59 AM

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Sullen Girl: The Cinderella Story

Maru · 08-04-2018, 04:49 AM

A Disney Movie about drag queens... I could see it.

Maru · 08-04-2018, 04:50 AM

Honestly, looking at older cartoons, there were a lot of subtle creepy/darker themes in them... so it's not like it's outside the ballpark for Disney to include LGBT characters (and in some ways, they've always pioneered the challenging of traditional roles). It's just doing it in a way that is not cliche'd that is actually new, unique and inventive... that would be the biggest challenge I think, to not end up with gimmicks... there is supposed to be a lot of depth to Disney stories... and that's what most people enjoy about them, is how relatable and yet how deep their storylines are... something that all children can connect with at a very basic level

Kazanne · 08-04-2018, 10:02 AM

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There’s a lot of talk and hope that Disney begins bringing out Disney princesses that are gay, promiscuous, transgender etc to move times along. A lot of people oppose this with the argument that this sort of thing should be kept out of children’s films and be tackled once they get older. I’m just looking for everybody on here’s opinions on it really, are you open to it or do you not think it should happen? And I’m not just talking about Disney princesses here if you want to bring other children’s films and TV into it, it’s just Disney princesses are the most obvious example.

Let children be children , they grow up soon enough,with enough pressures on them today,I don't see why the Disney films need to change at all,they are fairy stories and fantasy in the main , childhood has an innocence with it,it would be nice to keep that for as long as possible,there is plenty of time and other movie genrer's that can bring out that sort of thing. No need to bring sexuality into everything.

Tom4784 · 09-04-2018, 01:01 PM

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Let children be children , they grow up soon enough,with enough pressures on them today,I don't see why the Disney films need to change at all,they are fairy stories and fantasy in the main , childhood has an innocence with it,it would be nice to keep that for as long as possible,there is plenty of time and other movie genrer's that can bring out that sort of thing. No need to bring sexuality into everything.

The bolded points are problematic.

If you don't have a problem with the prince and princess living happily ever after then you can't take issue with two princes or two princessses having that same ending. Sexuality is an issue that affects kids, some kids are gay, why can't they have representation? Why is any sexuality that isn't heterosexuality seen as not appropriate for kids? It's the idea again that being gay is seen as being this overtly sexual thing that's only suitable for older audiences and it's a terrible attitude to have.

Like I said in my first post, you can portray a chaste homosexual relationship just as well as a chaste hetero relationship.

There is no real excuse against it really, the representation can go a long way in helping children feel accepted instead of feeling like they are inherently wrong.

lostalex · 09-04-2018, 07:45 AM

Disney is already Gay AF, What is more gay than Disney anyway? i think it makes sense that Disney embraces how gay they are. How many straight people do you know over 12 that love Disney?

I still have crushes on Prince Eric and Aladdin.

Crimson Dynamo · 09-04-2018, 09:01 AM

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Disney is already Gay AF, What is more gay than Disney anyway? i think it makes sense that Disney embraces how gay they are. How many straight people do you know over 12 that love Disney?

I still have crushes on Prince Eric and Aladdin.

I know Sullen Girl would like to get Alladin

Kazanne · 09-04-2018, 09:02 AM

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I know Sullen Girl would like to get Alladin

Vicky. · 09-04-2018, 02:00 PM

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I honestly think it's interesting that Elsa could easily be gay as no interest in anyone at all was implied in the first Frozen film. Which is quite "progressive" for Disney in itself... Having a main character with ZERO hint of a romantic subplot. They potentially seem to be heading more in that direction as, despite having both a female and male lead, there was no hint of a romance storyline in Moana either, again going with a more "sibling-like" vibe.

I quite liked that..so many Disney films seem to be about romances so I enjoyed having one that had no hint of that stuff. So it kind of annoys me a bhit that since there was no love interest, people seem determined to introduce a love interest

Haven't seen Moana. But I would love it if more and more films stopped being about the pretty little princess doing nothing really but trying to find Prince Charming. Just seems so..old fashioned.

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Disney is already Gay AF, What is more gay than Disney anyway? i think it makes sense that Disney embraces how gay they are. How many straight people do you know over 12 that love Disney?

I still have crushes on Prince Eric and Aladdin.

Aladdin was my first crush

Wasn't til like a couple of years ago I fopund out hes meant to look like Tom Cruise..

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The only reason I can think of why it would be inappropriate is if people think it would encourage kids to be gay, but surely in 2018 we've moved on from the 'being gay is a choice' way of thinking?

Well yeah..you cannot encourage someone to be gay. Transgender characters though, it really really would depend how they handled it as kids can be convinced they are trans just because of stereotypical crap. I think with trans pressure groups heading into schools to tell 5 year old kids that they may be trans if they like stuff associated with the opposite sex..we need no more of that nonsense.

Like others, I think its inappropriate for the characters in disney films to be promiscuous. Just no need at all. And I would prefer if they left Elsa alone as just a woman who does not fawn over the handsome prince or whatever. refreshing change, and hopefully more are made that way. but other characters..theres no reason at all for not having gay/bi ones. Just not my Elsa

user104658 · 09-04-2018, 02:23 PM

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I quite liked that..so many Disney films seem to be about romances so I enjoyed having one that had no hint of that stuff. So it kind of annoys me a bhit that since there was no love interest, people seem determined to introduce a love interest

Haven't seen Moana. But I would love it if more and more films stopped being about the pretty little princess doing nothing really but trying to find Prince Charming. Just seems so..old fashioned.

Well Frozen does still have the romance plot with Anna but its supposed to subvert the usual Disney tropes, too, as her "Prince Charming" turns out to be the villain, and she ends up with a "normal guy" instead.

Moana has no romance plot at all, it's just Moana herself and Maui, who is an immortal demi-god, sort of similar to the Aladdin/Genie relationship if anything. Except he doesn't really want to help her

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Its a good film though, I genuinely recommend it

. I mean, The Rock sings in it. You can't ask for much more.