[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Another reason mobile phones should be illegally for under 16s

That's a ridiculous statement.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's a ridiculous statement.

Clearly not if the parents are failing their jobs.

Social services should be involved because clearly this woman is a terrible parent

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Clearly not if the parents are failing their jobs.

Social services should be involved because clearly this woman is a terrible parent

Proposing banning anyone under the age of 16 from having phones is ****ing ridiculous and the epitome of a knee jerk reaction.

[thesheriff443]

He lost his job home and freedom, would he have done it if he knew her true age?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

He lost his job home and freedom, would he have done it if he knew her true age?

That's the crux ain't it.....the way he behaved after this event leads me more to believing he would have.

[thesheriff443]

As to knowing someone’s age, my daughter is 24 and I’ve yet again today had to buy an 18 dvd for her as they think she is too young

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

As to knowing someone’s age, my daughter is 24 and I’ve yet again today had to buy an 18 dvd for her as they think she is too young

Does she not carry ID

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

Does she not carry ID

No, I must get her passport re done.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

No, I must get her passport re done.

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get her a provisional driving license? Or use or DL if she had one?

[Shaun]

I'd like to think it was impossible to believe a 12 year old was above 16, let alone 19...

[Marsh.]

I know teenagers can look older than they are, but 12 seems too young for her to be believable as 19.

[user104658]

I call bull**** on him believing she was 19,though I doubt he realised she was as young as 12. For obvious protection reasons there won't be pictures of her in any article but had anyone realistically EVER seen a 12 year old that could pass for 19? 15/16 at the very most.

Though let's say he did think she was a young looking 19... Still an idiot to go there without actually figuring it out - and as an adult, it is his responsibility to be sure.

However I do agree that in terms of what harm has come to the girl, judging by the article, her family is far more responsible for this mess. Also possibly the services surrounding her may have let her down - although that's hard to say. They may have been trying without success. I would be very, very surprised if this was the first or only guy she's been involved with... This is just the time that it's been discovered.

Blaming the girl is ridiculous though, for a 12 year old to be acting like this her life must have been all sorts of messed up, and while that's not an excuse for an adult, she's 12 years old and can't possibly understand the consequences. Suggesting that she be punished is like saying my kid should have been prosecuted for shoplifting the time when she was 2 and hid a bag of chocolate brioche in her buggy on the way round Co op.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I call bull**** on him believing she was 19,though I doubt he realised she was as young as 12. For obvious protection reasons there won't be pictures of her in any article but had anyone realistically EVER seen a 12 year old that could pass for 19? 15/16 at the very most.

Though let's say he did think she was a young looking 19... Still an idiot to go there without actually figuring it out - and as an adult, it is his responsibility to be sure.

However I do agree that in terms of what harm has come to the girl, judging by the article, her family is far more responsible for this mess. Also possibly the services surrounding her may have let her down - although that's hard to say. They may have been trying without success. I would be very, very surprised if this was the first or only guy she's been involved with... This is just the time that it's been discovered.

Blaming the girl is ridiculous though, for a 12 year old to be acting like this her life must have been all sorts of messed up, and while that's not an excuse for an adult, she's 12 years old and can't possibly understand the consequences. Suggesting that she be punished is like saying my kid should have been prosecuted for shoplifting the time when she was 2 and hid a bag of chocolate brioche in her buggy on the way round Co op.

There’s a difference between 12 and 2 lmao

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

There’s a difference between 12 and 2 lmao

Just as there's a difference between 12 and 19.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Just as there's a difference between 12 and 19.

But a 2 year old doesn’t know the difference between wrong and right. A 12 year old does. As does a 19 year old.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

But a 2 year old doesn’t know the difference between wrong and right. A 12 year old does. As does a 19 year old.

A 12 year old doesn't have anything close to a full adult understanding of basic consequences, let alone the ability to comprehend adult sexual relationships or the complexities / legality of the age of consent. That's WHY the age of consent exists in the first place... it's the adult's responsibility... and "well she said..." isn't a valid excuse because if there is ANY doubt about age it's the adult's responsibility to either be sure or to just not go there.

I would say there are exceptional circumstances when teenagers at say 15 look MUCH older like 25+, which does happen. But courts assess these things. I think reading between the lines, law officials have looked seen the girl and thought "No she does not look 19, whether she said she was or not".

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

But a 2 year old doesn’t know the difference between wrong and right. A 12 year old does. As does a 19 year old.

But as 12 year old is still an immature child. A 19 year old is a grown adult capable of making their own decisions AND knowing the consequences of those decisions.

[Denver]

The mother let's her 12 year old have unauthorised internet access and doesn't bat an eyelid when she goes missing for a night.

How are social services not involved

[Northern Monkey]

If this 27 year old is dumb enough to get catfished by a 12 year old then I don’t think he’s mentally mature enough to be having sex tbh.
Imagine if he has his own kids.They’ll be wrapping him around their finger by the time they hit 12.

[Beso]

And I find it insulting to compare 18 and 19yr olds with children or being childlike....


Especially the ones keeping you safe at night..very patronising Imo. ...but I won't bring it up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

And I find it insulting to compare 18 and 19yr olds with children or being childlike....


Especially the ones keeping you safe at night..very patronising Imo. ...but I won't bring it up.

I have an 18 year old and she is very childlike still in alot of ways tbf and mature in others, just like I assume 18 year old soldiers etc are

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have an 18 year old and she is very childlike still in alot of ways tbf and mature in others, just like I assume 18 year old soldiers etc are

As I am sure even us at a more senior age will be at times as well.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

As I am sure even us at a more senior age will be at times as well.

Never!

[armand.kay]

You really expect me to believe someone in year 7 convicted him she was 19??? and then to add to that he took and shared unsolicited pornographic pics of her??? THROW AWAY THE KEY!!!

[montblanc]

how do you confuse a 12 year old for a 19 year old