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Old 30-05-2019, 10:21 AM #1
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How much do we send?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...uk-350m-a-week

This also doesn’t take into account the millions the EU gives back to us on projects the length and breadth of the UK, especially in places that voted leave

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It's true that the £350m figure doesn't include the rebate that we get back from that figure but iirc we don't get to decide how that rebate is used so we still don't have control over that sum

I do think it was quite dubious to use that number for what it's worth but to try and criminalise it is nonsense unless youre now going to do that in every political campaign ever. The Remain campaign claimed leaving would cost every household £4300 a year for instance which was also based on dodgy economics
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Terrible but that doesn't excuse Boris.
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At least some people will benefit from this whole pantomime. Lawyers.
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Didn't the Liberals at one point promise to do away with school fees or something like that , was anything done about that lie ? the timing of this is a bit dodgy, as much as Boris can be a tit ,we should have equality at least, this seems like sabotage.
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Politicians should be held accountable for what they say. I am all for Boris being challenged, and add a hundred more MP's to the list while they are at it
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Politicians should be held accountable for what they say. I am all for Boris being challenged, and add a hundred more MP's to the list while they are at it
I agree with this I think, when outright lies are told then yeah, why not hold them accountable. I hope this happens to more lying MPs, of all stripes to..well basically hpefully change the whole 'lying slimy politician' stereotype that seems prevailant
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I agree with this I think, when outright lies are told then yeah, why not hold them accountable. I hope this happens to more lying MPs, of all stripes to..well basically hpefully change the whole 'lying slimy politician' stereotype that seems prevailant
they are - its what is called the house of commons and the house of lords
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Didn't the Liberals at one point promise to do away with school fees or something like that , was anything done about that lie ? the timing of this is a bit dodgy, as much as Boris can be a tit ,we should have equality at least, this seems like sabotage.
For instance, I wait with breathless anticipation to see what's going to happen to Shami Chakrabarti when the The Equality and Human Rights Commission find there IS an anti-Semitism question to answer in the Labour Party, when she said quite clearly that there definitely wasn't.

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Theresa should be hauled up in court immediately for promising a strong and stable government.
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How much does everyone think we send then?

I read that the Bruges Group estimates the real cost to us of being a member of the EU is more like £600 million + per week due to an complicated system of payment that the media largely ignores.

I'm quite looking forward to the trial, to be honest. It's going to be a lively one.
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Quoting the Guardian is like quoting the Daily Mail, to be honest.
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Oh and we still have to send millions per week after we leave, so it was a poor and misleading argument anyway

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and it seems like this chap's motives were based on avarice and fame alone

someone on here i think said they sent him money

shocking
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someone on here i think said they sent him money

shocking
Twosugars gave him money.

And yes... avarice and fame.
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The fundamental truth is that the UK is a net contributor to the EU. We give them more money than we get back. So the fundamental truth of his statement is correct. The figure he used was a treasury estimate, again, nothing wrong with using that as a figure on that basis. The arithmetic over exact figures is very complicated. If the treasury can't estimate it accurately, who can.
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Hope he loses. For the dramz.
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Hope he loses. For the dramz.
...I don’t think he could lose though...if he did it would surely mean that no political party ever could form a manifesto in case of an unfulfilled promise or intention..?...it’s an interesting one...
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...I don’t think he could lose though...if he did it would surely mean that no political party ever could form a manifesto in case of an unfulfilled promise or intention..?...it’s an interesting one...
There's a difference between an unfulfilled pro,ise and a lie, though, which obviously is in the intention. If something just turns out to be unfeasible or inaccurate, or just impractical, that's one thing. If it can be proven that the person KNEW the information they were giving out was false BEFORE they said it, that's a totally different matter.
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The case has been thrown out by the High Court
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The case has been thrown out by the High Court



Yes I knew a Proper Judge would not waste time on it.


Twosugars wasted cash on Crowd Funding the Fool.
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Yes I knew a Proper Judge would not waste time on it.


Twosugars wasted cash on Crowd Funding the Fool.
Disagree.
Publicity alone has been worth it.
That guy has done a good service to democracy. Liars like boris need confronting
Wonder if they can appeal
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Disagree.
Publicity alone has been worth it.
That guy has done a good service to democracy. Liars like boris need confronting
Wonder if they can appeal



Get you Wallet out again
go waste more Cash.


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Get you Wallet out again
go waste more Cash.


Boris could soon be your PM
if need be I will, I like that campaign

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