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Old 30-05-2019, 10:23 AM #51
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Quoting the Guardian is like quoting the Daily Mail, to be honest.
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Oh and we still have to send millions per week after we leave, so it was a poor and misleading argument anyway

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It's true that the £350m figure doesn't include the rebate that we get back from that figure but iirc we don't get to decide how that rebate is used so we still don't have control over that sum

I do think it was quite dubious to use that number for what it's worth but to try and criminalise it is nonsense unless youre now going to do that in every political campaign ever. The Remain campaign claimed leaving would cost every household £4300 a year for instance which was also based on dodgy economics
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and it seems like this chap's motives were based on avarice and fame alone

someone on here i think said they sent him money

shocking
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The fundamental truth is that the UK is a net contributor to the EU. We give them more money than we get back. So the fundamental truth of his statement is correct. The figure he used was a treasury estimate, again, nothing wrong with using that as a figure on that basis. The arithmetic over exact figures is very complicated. If the treasury can't estimate it accurately, who can.
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Politicians should be held accountable for what they say. I am all for Boris being challenged, and add a hundred more MP's to the list while they are at it
I agree with this I think, when outright lies are told then yeah, why not hold them accountable. I hope this happens to more lying MPs, of all stripes to..well basically hpefully change the whole 'lying slimy politician' stereotype that seems prevailant
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Hope he loses. For the dramz.
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...I don’t think he could lose though...if he did it would surely mean that no political party ever could form a manifesto in case of an unfulfilled promise or intention..?...it’s an interesting one...
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and it seems like this chap's motives were based on avarice and fame alone

someone on here i think said they sent him money

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Twosugars gave him money.

And yes... avarice and fame.
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I agree with this I think, when outright lies are told then yeah, why not hold them accountable. I hope this happens to more lying MPs, of all stripes to..well basically hpefully change the whole 'lying slimy politician' stereotype that seems prevailant
they are - its what is called the house of commons and the house of lords
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...I don’t think he could lose though...if he did it would surely mean that no political party ever could form a manifesto in case of an unfulfilled promise or intention..?...it’s an interesting one...
There's a difference between an unfulfilled pro,ise and a lie, though, which obviously is in the intention. If something just turns out to be unfeasible or inaccurate, or just impractical, that's one thing. If it can be proven that the person KNEW the information they were giving out was false BEFORE they said it, that's a totally different matter.
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This is a Northern Businessman
taking Boris to Court
he raised cash for this.


Boris has called it a Political stunt,
Expected to go to Crown Court.



Funded by anonymous donations on a fund me page....leaving the door wide open for Russian interference...labour interference and perhaps other leadership candidates interfering..
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Funded by anonymous donations on a fund me page....leaving the door wide open for Russian interference...labour interference and perhaps other leadership candidates interfering..
not anonymous and I donated too
worth every penny to see that lying arsehole squirm


but speaking of dodgy donations, how is Nigel doing? He is the one being investigated
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not anonymous and I donated too
worth every penny to see that lying arsehole squirm


but speaking of dodgy donations, how is Nigel doing? He is the one being investigated
I cant believe you wasted your money to pay for this guys rent and food??

you have been conned m8te
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I cant believe you wasted your money to pay for this guys rent and food??

you have been conned m8te
sorry, LT, but if you say white I've noticed time and again that black is the correct answer so
not to mention it is none of your business what I do with my money

Btw, have you read Siege yet? Your idol, Steve Bannon is a major contributor, on the record.
I recommend it
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not anonymous and I donated too
worth every penny to see that lying arsehole squirm


but speaking of dodgy donations, how is Nigel doing? He is the one being investigated


Yes Crowd Funding
that's your money to waste


It will not stop Boris,
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Yes Crowd Funding
that's your money to waste


It will not stop Boris,
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Yes Crowd Funding
that's your money to waste


It will not stop Boris,
It will probably help him
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It will probably help him

Yes its a Left Winger Crowd Funded
waste of High Court time etc.,
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not anonymous and I donated too
worth every penny to see that lying arsehole squirm


but speaking of dodgy donations, how is Nigel doing? He is the one being investigated
Donations can be made annonomously, the bloke even admitted that that was open to some dodgy dealings....anyone could make the donations..absolutely anyone, and hide behind anninomity.
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The case has been thrown out by the High Court
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Appeal?
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I don’t think this would’ve ever had much chance tbh.

As much as we’d all love for politicians to be 100% honest.
I think the consequences of this would have opened the floodgates for more and more court time being used for prosecuting politicians who tell porkies. Which let’s be honest is very often.
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He's been sacked for lying twice in his career. Now he is lying again, but the stakes are much higher

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