[Brother Leon]

Should never have been Rated R. There was no real need for it having watched it and it hasn’t helped the numbers at all. I feel for the girls, because the movie was fun tbh.

DC and Warner Bros are going to be desperate for Pattinson Batman to be a hit.

[Oliver_W]

To be fair the marketing and promotional interviews made the film look like it was aimed at the "woke" crowd, even though the film itself was actually fine. Making it look like a "girl movie", when most of the audience was actually male probably didn't help either.

But yeah, it was okay, I'd like it more if it was about the actual Birds of Prey from the comics, and didn't include Harley

[Niamh.]

I really enjoyed this, it was a really fun movie but I agree with Leon about the age rating, I dont understand why it was 16s

[Jessica.]

My boyfriend and I enjoyed it. I hope the name change helps.

[Amy Jade]

I enjoyed this too, I do think the pacing was off though, it starts well but gets a little bogged down in the middle. I agree with those saying it didnt warrant an R rating, it wasn't graphic at all.

[Oliver_W]

I don't think it's fair to say its failure is down to incels. Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, The Hustle, Dark Phoenix, and that Rebel Wilson romcom were all successful and/or well liked.

Sometimes it really does come down to marketing. Most of the publicity for the film made it clear it was a feminist movie, and sometimes this publicity teetered over the "teehee, not for you, boys!"

Plus, a completely shallow point... These are the comics Birds of Prey:

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and this is the movie version:

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I'm all for averting the male gaze, but that doesn't sell movie tickets...

[LukeB]

Dark phoenix was a box office flop and had bad reviews...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Dark phoenix was a box office flop and had bad reviews...

Oops you're right xD well I guess that's another example of bad publicity sinking something - that widely circulated clip of Mystique bitching at Professor X turned a lot of people off.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Oops you're right xD well I guess that's another example of bad publicity sinking something - that widely circulated clip of Mystique bitching at Professor X turned a lot of people off.

Dark Phoenix flopping wasn't down to bad marketing, it was down to it being not very good... And essentially, the entire X-men reboot cycle not being very good. First Class is an OK film, and Future Past has a couple of standout scenes but overall is a mess. Apocalypse is dumb and Dark Phoenix is just... Not even entertaining.

Logan is good but it's more like "Joker" - not fully attached to the franchise, more of an alternate timeline take.

In this case I can't fully comment as I haven't seen Birds of Prey, but I've seen a lot of comparisons to Suicide Squad and IMO, Suicide Squad is just not a good movie. In terms of narrative and editing, it's an absolute mess. Justice League was the same, and the cinematic cut of BvS (though I still like the directors cut).

I get the same vibes from the trailer for this. I'll still watch it on home release though and give it the benefit of the doubt.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Dark Phoenix flopping wasn't down to bad marketing, it was down to it being not very good... And essentially, the entire X-men reboot cycle not being very good. First Class is an OK film, and Future Past has a couple of standout scenes but overall is a mess. Apocalypse is dumb and Dark Phoenix is just... Not even entertaining.

Logan is good but it's more like "Joker" - not fully attached to the franchise, more of an alternate timeline take.

In this case I can't fully comment as I haven't seen Birds of Prey, but I've seen a lot of comparisons to Suicide Squad and IMO, Suicide Squad is just not a good movie. In terms of narrative and editing, it's an absolute mess. Justice League was the same, and the cinematic cut of BvS (though I still like the directors cut).

I get the same vibes from the trailer for this. I'll still watch it on home release though and give it the benefit of the doubt.

Probably why it's the only one I liked then

[Niamh.]

I never really liked the X Men franchise anyway. The only one I really really loved was Logan

[James]

I think the main reason for the box-office under-performance is that Suicide Squad didn't live up to expectations of the marketing, for many. So they didn't bother with this.

That and the 'R'/'15' rating.