[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Samm

Only Trump has claimed this.. not the most reliable source.



Exactly, it’s also strange this happens to occur on the year the election is in the USA, like what I said civilian life’s up for disposal for power by multi billion leaders.

...He claimed lots of things, gave lots of reasons...I don’t know if you saw him speak..?...but it was difficult to follow any reasoning at all, his direction went in too many places and too many ‘justifications’ were given for his actions...but he has big weapons apparently ...much bigger than Iran...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Samm

If Iran accidentally or purposely shot it down then the blame should also be put on the US for starting this pointless conflict.

As what most conflicts/wars are use for, they’re used for money and power, and using innocent civilians as collateral damage

...yeah, the responsibility for life loss lays with Donald Trump also...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, the responsibility for life loss lays with Donald Trump also...

why?

[arista]

Infra red blips

[Iran plane crash: USA officials 'confident' plane shot down by Iranian missile]

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-plan...ssile-11904698


There are photos of a Missile bits
being checked
Ref: Ch4HD news

[Crimson Dynamo]

that video from the failing guardian does not work

[Crimson Dynamo]

oop now it does

apolz

[arista]

[user104658]

USA and Iran playing war games and 176 innocent people get caught in the crossfire. There will be tens of thousands more if it escalates, of course.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

USA and Iran playing war games and 176 innocent people get caught in the crossfire. There will be tens of thousands more if it escalates, of course.

Nearly 300 dead so far and it's nothing more than gesturing at the moment. There is much worse to come yet before this is resolved.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

USA and Iran playing war games and 176 innocent people get caught in the crossfire. There will be tens of thousands more if it escalates, of course.

...and over 50 people crushed to death at the funeral of Qassem Soleimani because of the ripple affect of Trump’s action ...these are real people with loved ones grieving them...Trump speaks of his might and power and my guns are bigger than your guns...but not once has he paid any respect to the life losses he has taken part in creating or the families of the dead...some lives seem to have a very low value...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...and over 50 people crushed to death at the funeral of Qassem Soleimani because of the ripple affect of Trump’s action ...these are real people with loved ones grieving them...Trump speaks of his might and power and my guns are bigger than your guns...but not once has he paid any respect to the life losses he has taken part in creating or the families of the dead...some lives seem to have a very low value...

No video of the crush..or funerals of the dead.


Load off rubbish if you ask me, like the tears at the funeral from the leaders

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

How Crazy of Iran
to use a Bulldozer
to clear the site.

Ground Investigation needs to be done
not bulldoze the land

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

How Crazy of Iran
to use a Bulldozer
to clear the site.

Ground Investigation needs to be done
not bulldoze the land

the country is in turmoil due to disastrous religious leaders and the fact the USA has put proper sanctions on them, and it will get worse as their economy is in the toilet

i predict a people revolt

[arista]

[arista]

At last
The Iranians now admit it was Shot down in Error.


https://news.sky.com/story/iran-admi...r-jet-11905884

[Ammi]

...those poor, poor people and their loved ones...

[user104658]

There's blame all round in this tbh. The military mis-identifying the plane and having an itchy trigger finger, both sides for playing war games in the first place / Trump with the threats that had them so riled up and reactionary... and really... the fact that civilian flights were taking off at all?? The risk of something like this was huge - flights should all have been grounded.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's blame all round in this tbh. The military mis-identifying the plane and having an itchy trigger finger, both sides for playing war games in the first place / Trump with the threats that had them so riled up and reactionary... and really... the fact that civilian flights were taking off at all?? The risk of something like this was huge - flights should all have been grounded.

Sure Trump rolled back on threats to
Cultural Sites , though.

Its a Massive Error
by Iran Army.

[Beso]

Such an embarrassment for the Iranians. .how inept have they shown themselves to be..

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Such an embarrassment for the Iranians. .how inept have they shown themselves to be..

america did the same to Iran, quite some years ago as i remember correctly, the US Vincennes who shot down that Iran Air jet, who had mistaken it for a F-14 fighter

within panic, chaos, stress in a conflict you can make these errors unfortunately

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

america did the same to Iran, quite some years ago as i remember correctly, the US Vincennes who shot down that Iran Air jet, who had mistaken it for a F-14 fighter

within panic, chaos, stress in a conflict you can make these errors unfortunately

you are correct Nicky I recall this horrible event

[arista]

[Tom4784]

Mistakes have been made all round, there should be no commercial flights in such a tense situation, the US shouldn't have escalated things to this point and Iran shouldn't have had an itchy trigger finger.

I'm glad that the Iranian people are making their voices heard though and that they are getting coverage. If this was back in the early 2000's, the media would be pushing the narrative that the public would have supported the government in their actions.