[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

If they live with their families the risk is low as they have been living with them anyway.Ive taken mine a couple of times.

How can a child going back into school ( 1st June) with four other year groups -all unable to follow social distancing guidelines and then going back home to their families NOT be a risk ??


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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How can a child going back into school ( 1st June) with four other year groups -all unable to follow social distancing guidelines and then going back home to their families NOT be a risk ??


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They are supervised Zizu and some children are still in school and have all been fine.

[LukeB]

September (if safe)

they nearly break up for summer holidays so there's no point in sending them back.

[Zizu]

Seems a very odd decision to be basically experimenting with our youngest kids and all the staff involved ...


Speaking at the Downing Street press conference on Monday (April 27), Prof Whitty said if you have schools open, it does contribute to the infection rate.

“If you close schools, the R goes down, it was part of the collection of things that were done in March to try and pull the R from where it was, near three, to where it is now, below one"


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[Zizu]

Looks like complete chaos ...


What other countries are doing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/51204456


Pupils have started returning to school in some countries too, such as France - where secondary school pupils have to wear masks in school. In Denmark, children are being kept further apart than usual and, where possible, lessons are being held outside; classes in Norway have been reduced to a maximum of 15 students to allow for social distancing. Some school playgrounds are divided, and there is a lot of focus on hygiene - particularly hand washing; Switzerland is allowing children under 10 to have "brief" meetings, and even hugs with their grandparents.


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[Zizu]

As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids, when you can from hard surfaces?..


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[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids, when you can from hard surfaces?..


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The virus was around Zizu long before we even knew of it's impact.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The virus was around Zizu long before we even knew of it's impact.

That’s irrelevant.. we’re still seeing thousands of new infections daily and hundreds of deaths .

So as I said ..

As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids and their grubby hands when you can from hard surfaces and clothes ?..






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[Zizu]

Just seen this rather interesting comment from a deputy head on another forum thread frequented by predominantly teachers / heads / SLTs etc

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“Following an email to parents my childrens school have reported 70% of parents have said they will not return to school on June 1st.


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[Zizu]

Joint General Secretary, National Education Union . Kevin Courtney just said it's very unlikely primary schools will be going back in June


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[Kazanne]

Regarding schools,I work in a school and believe it or not a school will be one of the safest places for your kids,we have had a detailed email of what is in place,the virus will not be going away anytime soon,so we have to gradually get them back into education.IF you feel scared about it just keep them at home.

[Zizu]

The petition has hit over 400,000 now !

Spoiler:

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[Cherie]

When do you think it will be safe for schools to go back Zizu?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

When do you think it will be safe for schools to go back Zizu?

I’ve always felt that Sept should be the focal point for schools to return ( if all safety concerns are settled ) and maybe a week or two in July just for the year 6 pupils to catch up with friends and teachers and have a couple of transition mornings at their new secondary school


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ve always felt that Sept should be the focal point for schools to return ( if all safety concerns are settled ) and maybe a week or two in July just for the year 6 pupils to catch up with friends and teachers and have a couple of transition mornings at their new secondary school


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I do agree with this, I wonder if that it the compromise that will be reached with regard to Year 6s, such a shame if they cant sign off on their primary school years

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I do agree with this, I wonder if that it the compromise that will be reached with regard to Year 6s, such a shame if they cant sign off on their primary school years

I think it’s madness to introduce four additional age groups into the current ongoing system .


In regards to social distancing, no sharing of equipment , one way systems , staggered breaks and dinnertimes - its quite a leap for some primary schools who may be going from ten or so pupils to an maybe an extra 120 each day ( 4 x30)


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[Kazanne]

schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .

Well, I'm glad they weren't tbh, when it comes to my kids I would rather err on the side of caution anyway

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, I'm glad they weren't tbh, when it comes to my kids I would rather err on the side of caution anyway

Well I think most mothers would think like that and its great if you can do that,but some have to work, the schools have had emails to guide us what to do ,you don't have to send your kids and if it makes you feel happier keeping them away,you can,plus some kids are safer at school.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .

Our school has been seeing between 10 and 17 pupils per day instead of 1,400 - quite a different situation.

Also that small number were in 2 or 3 separate classrooms of no more than 6 - with two staff in attendance each room .

These are teenagers and even they couldn’t be kept apart in class - let alone at break and dinnertime where they were seen hugging and swapping phones .


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[Zizu]

So apparently Matt Hancock this morning said there's a higher risk of catching the virus indoors ... thank the lawd we teach all our lessons outside ...


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[Zizu]

This is a copy / paste post lifted from another forum ..

Rather intriguing though ...

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“My husband is the chair of governors at a primary school and he's been liaising with the schools headmistress re going back. Between them they've decided it isnt feasible to do what the government is thinking about doing.

They have a duty of care. If their school cannot meet the requirements set by the govt they are duty bound not to re-open.

So they are opening the school so the little ones can meet their new teachers one by one. But the school wont open until September now”



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[Zizu]

Sooo a peak into the future ??

Schools in Wuhan now have a very thorough procedure in place before the pupil even walks in through the school building.

The pupil goes to the school gates there is someone waiting who sprays the pupils clothes front and back below the neck and then the pupil takes off their mask they've worn to walk to school, and puts in bin, and then the pupil uses hand sanitiser from a dispenser that's laid out on a table in front of the school , and then the pupil lifts both their feet up and someone sprays the bottom of their shoes - and then they are allowed to go in to the school building - each pupil is also given a 'temperature check' before being allowed to enter the school building.



Same applies to all staff Teachers wear masks and have to do a temperature check of each pupil twice a day.



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[Zizu]

Andy Burnham just held a coronavirus press conference on the current situation in Greater Manchester

Andy Burnham was joined joined by Beverley Hughes and GMP Chief Constable Ian Hopkins

Andy Burnham talking on
Schools returning -

He is asked about schools: does he agree with very young children and Y6 going back in June and does he agree with Liverpool’s mayor Joe Anderson, who says he will ‘resist’ the suggestion of a staged schools reopening June 1st ?

In some ways, he says, the position is as with the overall position - you need foresight, so at least with the schools picture you can plan ahead.

It will have to be a phased return, he says.

It is going to be a real challenge to maintain the distancing..

It is ‘desirable I think’ that we return as many students as we can as soon as we can but it has to be done safely.

Until then I don’t think any firm dates can be set.
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Bev Hughes adds that she is ‘really concerned’ about the government setting this target date.

I don’t know what the evidence is, she says, on which they base their decisions.

We don’t know if children are asymptomatic carriers, for example.

I’m certainly concerned about my grandchildren.
This is also a huge challenge for teachers.

It’s ‘incomprehensible’, she says, to start with reception age children; they learn through play and socialisation, so it’s impossible for them to keep a 2m distance.

“I cannot begin to understand the logic behind that”


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[Zizu]

Mayor of Liverpool


Mayor Anderson has made it clear he intends not to follow the government's plans. Education is vital, however it does not come before the health and safety of our children & staff. I will resist allowing schools to reopen in June. To do so risks our children’s and staff safety."


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