[Saph]

OK

[Parmy]

Sick of the sight of that weasly looking bloke each night and his nasal tone.

I want that old women that is the expert to be pm after all this..unless Boris comes back soon at 5pm..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Sick of the sight of that weasly looking bloke each night and his nasal tone.

I want that old women that is the expert to be pm after all this..unless Boris comes back soon at 5pm..

The Irish one?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The Irish one?

Her that looks like the quiet one....bet she ain't though.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Her that looks like the quiet one....bet she ain't though.

You have lost me Is that Alison McClean

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You have lost me Is that Alison McClean

The one that does the graphs.

[Kizzy]

I put bad job as the response was slow, the appropriate advice was not followed by the government themselves leading to us becoming a rudderless state in a pandemic. There has been conflicting statements from ministers suggesting a cover up of misinformation and a poor procurement process for essential services to access adequate equipment.
I only didn't put terrible because nobody has been advised to inject disinfectant. ..yet.

[arista]

"Then it is the GOVERNMENTS responsibility
to impose stricter conditions"

Yes Smithy

[caprimint]

They couldn't have done any better

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Not really. I mean it’s a difficult response for any government so I do give them a bit of slack but at the same time compared to other countries their handling has been terrible. They had a time period where there was warnings and they did little to nothing to prepare the country for a outbreak. And like smithy said they needed to make restrictions more in place instead of blaming everyone else but themselves.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Not really. I mean it’s a difficult response for any government so I do give them a bit of slack but at the same time compared to other countries their handling has been terrible. They had a time period where there was warnings and they did little to nothing to prepare the country for a outbreak. And like smithy said they needed to make restrictions more in place instead of blaming everyone else but themselves.

if the thickos wont follow the current restrictions, what makes you think they will follow more rigid ones

[Livia]

The poll is pointless on a heavily Left leaning forum quite out of step with the rest of the country.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

The poll is pointless on a heavily Left leaning forum quite out of step with the rest of the country.

Would you let your political opinions infer with your honest feeling on something as huge as corona? Or you just being super baity like usual and implying that others have?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The poll is pointless on a heavily Left leaning forum quite out of step with the rest of the country.

Just over a third of those who have responded have said the govt are doing ok or better, for a 'heavily left leaning' forum that's not bad.. how is this out of step with the GP as a whole?
What percentage would you say would bring that in line with the rest of the country?


Oh... look here.

'Two thirds of people think government imposed lockdown too late, poll suggests

The number of people who believe the government did not act quickly enough in dealing with the coronavirus outbreak is increasing, according to a poll.

Two thirds of adults think ministers brought in strict measures to deal with the emergency too late, a rise from 57% two weeks ago,*the*Ipsos Mori*survey (pdf)*found.'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...0882b206dcff8f

[Tom4784]

They've done a terrible job and if it wasn't for Rishi Sunak, we'd have been in a much worse position.

Boris was inattentive and didn't care, he skipped a lot of meetings about Corona and he's probably relieved as **** that he got it because now he gets sympathy when really, he should be getting criticised all over the place for his handling of the crisis.

If you want to see an example of a good response to this crisis, look no further than New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern is a prime example of what leaders should be doing.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They've done a terrible job and if it wasn't for Rishi Sunak, we'd have been in a much worse position.

Boris was inattentive and didn't care, he skipped a lot of meetings about Corona and he's probably relieved as **** that he got it because now he gets sympathy when really, he should be getting criticised all over the place for his handling of the crisis.

If you want to see an example of a good response to this crisis, look no further than New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern is a prime example of what leaders should be doing.

New Zealand is a tiny country with fewer citizen and are not a rich country so its easier to lockdown and do whatever

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They've done a terrible job and if it wasn't for Rishi Sunak, we'd have been in a much worse position.

Boris was inattentive and didn't care, he skipped a lot of meetings about Corona and he's probably relieved as **** that he got it because now he gets sympathy when really, he should be getting criticised all over the place for his handling of the crisis.

If you want to see an example of a good response to this crisis, look no further than New Zealand. Jacinda Ardern is a prime example of what leaders should be doing.

Weren’t New Zealand one of the last to get it though and learnt from everyone else’s mistakes plus they’re miles out on a limb and not crammed to the hilt like us ..

I bet they have stricter border control than we do .. their land mass looks similar to ours yet they have around half the number of people in London


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[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Weren’t New Zealand one of the last to get it though and learnt from everyone else’s mistakes plus they’re miles out on a limb and not crammed to the hilt like us ..

I bet they have stricter border control than we do .. their land mass looks similar to ours yet they have around half the number of people in London


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The governments of the world knew how bad it would be long before it got as bad as it did. The UKand the US in particular knew but did nothing. You can't really say that the governments were caught unaware when they had advanced warnings in January and February.

[Denver]

I cant help but think if labour was in and did the same things people would be ****ting in their hands and clapping

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

I cant help but think if labour was in and did the same things people would be ****ting in their hands and clapping

Perhaps you should stop complaining about hypothetical situations that will never happen and actually focus on the issues at hand.

I know you have a hardon for Boris but complaining about Labour ain't gonna change the fact that he ****ed up badly. Whataboutism is nothing but a distraction tactic for people with nothing to add.

[Tom4784]

Never forget that if Boris had his way, things would have carried on as normal and we'd be sacrificing the elderly and the vulnerable with the excuse of building 'herd immunity'.

[Denver]

Lives wouldnt have been saved either way its 50/50 if you catch it so there is no point saying labour would have stopped people dying when its impossible to stop people dying with a vaccine, the thing that is saving most people is how their immune system deals with it and of course the doctors are trying to help them but its not really something that can be stopped right now

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Lives wouldnt have been saved either way its 50/50 if you catch it so there is no point saying labour would have stopped people dying when its impossible to stop people dying with a vaccine, the thing that is saving most people is how their immune system deals with it and of course the doctors are trying to help them but its not really something that can be stopped right now

Adam, sweetie, you really need to hear this and hold it deep in your heart. Labour is not in power, they haven't been in power for ten years. You can't just keep trying to shield the government by pointing the finger at a party who will likely never get back into power. Deal with reality, the Tories have been in charge for the past 10 years, when will you start holding the government accountable?

You only have to look at countries like South Korea (which really recovered well from basically being hit with it right out of the gate) and New Zealand to see examples of how good government actions can help ease the crisis. Our government did the bare minimum and was fully prepared to let Corona cull the 'weak'. No amount of handwringing or whataboutism is going to change that.

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Also ive seen many a people who claim Tories have ****ed up to then go and break lockdown rules so that makes their opinion immediately invalid

Yes, thank you for that dismissive highly suspicious anecdotal evidence, much appreciated.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Adam, sweetie, you really need to hear this and hold it deep in your heart. Labour is not in power, they haven't been in power for ten years. You can't just keep trying to shield the government by pointing the finger at a party who will likely never get back into power. Deal with reality, the Tories have been in charge for the past 10 years, when will you start holding the government accountable?

You only have to look at countries like South Korea (which really recovered well from basically being hit with it right out of the gate) and New Zealand to see examples of how good government actions can help ease the crisis. Our government did the bare minimum and was fully prepared to let Corona cull the 'weak'. No amount of handwringing or whataboutism is going to change that.




Yes, thank you for that dismissive highly suspicious anecdotal evidence, much appreciated.

Because they are 2 countries that are the exact same size of the UK to compare to.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Because they are 2 countries that are the exact same size of the UK to compare to.

New Zealand as a land mass is comparable to ours, they are less populated but South Korea has a comparable population to ours. Both took decisive action early on and both have done well to combat the problem.

What is your next excuse for not criticising the government?