[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

She is backed by tons of scientists and professionals and politicians.
What she did with her strike has never been done before. And of course she would use such punchlines to make people think and/or scared, that's exactly how this works if you want to make an impact. Scientists are not considered (unfortunately) as public figures, hence why you have celebrities or politicians campaigning to raise funds etc
She's the face of that movement and tbh that was frankly needed.

And you don't know if her childhood was robbed or not, that's not our position to say. And that's to be put into context also. She know what's she doing.

What I understood her to mean by that was she felt she had to mentally grow up faster and worry about things she shouldn't have had to worry about

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

She is backed by tons of scientists and professionals and politicians.
What she did with her strike has never been done before. And of course she would use such punchlines to make people think and/or scared, that's exactly how this works if you want to make an impact. Scientists are not considered (unfortunately) as public figures, hence why you have celebrities or politicians campaigning to raise funds etc
She's the face of that movement and tbh that was frankly needed.

And you don't know if her childhood was robbed or not, that's not our position to say. And that's to be put into context also. She know what's she doing.

oh ok, that does make sense indeed


Morgan Freeman should add to the campaign too, he's soo good at these sort of things, he can talk so well, yet also with loads of charisma

[Denver]

I think with Shamima she is now an adult and has shown no remorse for her actions if she was still a child I'd say let her back but she is a grown ass woman who is a danger to the country

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Denver

I think with Shamima she is now an adult and has shown no remorse for her actions if she was still a child I'd say let her back but she is a grown ass woman who is a danger to the country

she has no connections to isis anymore though

but if you guys don't want her back, let her come to Netherlands, some of our refugee camps/homes are quite nice, and most in there are very social with each other, a real community that is becoming, i think Shamima and her husband would fit in well there, and she is allowed to come to my country since her husband is dutch

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

she has no connections to isis anymore though

but if you guys don't want her back, let her come to Netherlands, some of our refugee camps/homes are quite nice, and most in there are very social with each other, a real community that is becoming, i think Shamima and her husband would fit in well there, and she is allowed to come to my country since her husband is dutch

Not Nicky’s new neighbours

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

Not Nicky’s new neighbours

Not when his mum use to shout at the immigrant children playing outside

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Denver

Not when his mum use to shout at the immigrant children playing outside

Hope he’s got enough room for a rhino

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Denver

I think with Shamima she is now an adult and has shown no remorse for her actions if she was still a child I'd say let her back but she is a grown ass woman who is a danger to the country

Yes she has?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Yes she has?

I'm sorry but that half hearted apology while saying she wants to live in the UK with her husband is not acceptable.

If we are bringing terrorists back then bring them back with life in prison with no chance of parole

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Yes she has?

When? The only regret I've heard her express is that she spoke to the media about her intention to return home.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Denver

I think with Shamima she is now an adult and has shown no remorse for her actions if she was still a child I'd say let her back but she is a grown ass woman who is a danger to the country

It's not really an issue of 'should we let her come back?'. She's a UK citizen living illegally in Iraq and we don't really have much choice taking her back.

Just imagine if an Iraqi terrorist was living illegally in the UK and Iraq were like 'no, you keep her, we don't want her back.' The outrage would be ridiculous yet we expect Iraq to be okay with just that.

We can't revoke her citizenship, the appeals will go in her favour because she doesn't have citizenship elsewhere. We've just got to hope that she faces consequences for her actions and that she can be deradicalised.

[Oliver_W]

Regarding the "stolen childhood" thing ...

It's easy to say that the child of two minor celebrities growing up in the modern western world has virtually nothing to moan about. But any kid who grows up in the public eye has to grow up fast, tbh.
That kid who's in everything about the 80s lol, I people were moaning on twitter because he wouldn't speak to fans outside a hotel? It's like, he's 13, leave him alone.

[Denver]

Why is Nicky being a isis sympathiser though?

[MTVN]

Here for a Nicky91 global affairs podcast

[Oliver_W]

If she was going through an edgy rebellious teenage phase, for her household it'd probably involve having her hair and ankles on display while eating bacon, not running away to join a murderous cult.

[Conzors]

You cant really compare the two...

... one is a potential terrorist with instructions. Shes already been brainwashed once, who's to say she still isnt.

... one is a young person with views and intelligence beyond her age and doesnt know how to the right way to express them yet.

I know what one i'd give a pass to.

[Nicky91]

i do not sympathize for isis, nor for any terrorist group


also she should not go to jail


so yeah if you guys in UK do not want her, i hope we in Netherlands will take her in

[Ammi]

...how can it ever work her regaining her citizenship and residing here...how can she ever be protected from the ‘hate’ she’ll receive, she’s such a recognisable person...and she’ll be hounded every moment/every second...

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i do not sympathize for isis, nor for any terrorist group


also she should not go to jail


so yeah if you guys in UK do not want her, i hope we in Netherlands will take her in

Your dear conservative Prime Minister Mark Rutte who negotiated a grand coalition with the Christen-Democratisch Appèl (Christian Union) would never allow it.

And yes, she should go to jail. wtf are you on about.

[Livia]

People imagine Begum is still a UK citizen. She is not. Begum has been stripped of her UK citizenship. She's appealing against it and a judge has said she should be able to return to the UK to be able to pursue an effective appeal. But right now, she is not a UK citizen.

The only people who listen to Greta are other teenagers and self-flagellating liberals. She's a rather plain teenager with famous parents. That doesn't give her any special insight into global warming. I, and I'm sure a lot of people on here, take global warming seriously and kind of resent being lectured by a child.

18 is the age of majority. From time to time it's discussed that we should allow 16 year olds to vote. I personally don't believe that is correct. People would be shocked if we started locking up 16 year olds in grown up prison. If you're old enough for one, you're old enough for the other.

[Oliver_W]

Whether or not Begum should be allowed to return,why should it be paid for?

If she wants to come back, she can either buy a plane ticket, or follow the same route other migrants from that part of the world do. She doesn't an easy life.

[GoldHeart]

Why are they even being compared ??! .

One is a positive voice for this generation and the other is a terrorist sympathiser that joined Isis

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why are they even being compared ??! .

One is a positive voice for this generation and the other is a terrorist sympathiser that joined Isis

Because they're both teenagers - or were when they attracted notoriety.

That's what I got from the OP.

[Ammi]

...I wouldn’t describe the inspiration that Greta is to many young people as notoriety...the awareness she has given is very positive...

[Tom4784]

Imagine feeling so threatened by a teenager, you have to refer to her looks as plain to make yourself feel superior.