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Ammi · 11-06-2021, 06:21 AM

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

AnnieK · 11-06-2021, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

This for me too

Liam- · 11-06-2021, 08:15 AM

If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

arista · 11-06-2021, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m perfectly fine with it, I’m not extreme left or extreme anything and any way that I might vote politically for my reasons…have no bearing on that I’m fine with it…

So what.

This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match

It will be Boooo'd every time.

arista · 11-06-2021, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

If being ‘extreme left’ means that I’m fine with people protesting against racism and trying to make actual changes to help fight discrimination, then count me the **** in

No you are Forcing USA BLM
on a UK Match.

Ammi · 11-06-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

So what.

This is the Wrong Politics
on a Live UK Football Match

It will be Boooo'd every time.

…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

Niamh. · 11-06-2021, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

I agree with this, there is and has always been a problem with racism in football/soccer and I think it's a nice gesture of solidarity among the players. I don't think any player should be forced into doing it but I don't see a problem with those who want to do it, to continue doing it? I don't see how it warrants boos either

joeysteele · 11-06-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

I totally agree.

I support the players doing so myself too.
There clearly us from the booing, still elements of racism that perhaps needs to be stamped out of sport.

arista · 11-06-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s not politics for those taking the knee, it’s a simple gesture of unity and like mindedness against racism and in support of equality…why should those who are practising it and know it’s meaning for them, take on the politics of others because they’re seeing their own meaning and placing political on it…

…society is only where it is through persistence and determination over things like booing ../…resistance to change or progression….

That does not matter
The Fact they are Doing the USA BLM Political Move
Upsets the UK Fans
can you not understand that???????????????

Ammi · 11-06-2021, 12:59 PM

…why the lots of question marks, Arista…15 of them, I think…to express your disapproval that I don’t agree with you…yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it that isn’t there for those who are expressing it as a simple united gesture ….against racism and supporting equality…

… Wilfried Zaha doesn’t wish to take the knee so instead he ‘stands tall’…it still equates to the same gesture of being united against inequality…booing is booing equality, it’s not booing a gesture…I completely understand…

Liam- · 11-06-2021, 01:28 PM

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

Nicky91 · 11-06-2021, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

+ i don't think UEFA wouldn't mind this at all, given their own #SayNoToRacism motto

arista · 11-06-2021, 01:54 PM

"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"

BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

Crimson Dynamo · 11-06-2021, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"

BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

bang on right Arista and hopefully the cacophony of boos at each match will ram the point home

get up off your knees

Ammi · 11-06-2021, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

"yes, I do understand that others are trying to place some type of political meaning on it"

BLM USA Politics have no place
at the match

…and they’re not at the match unless you yourself are personally placing those politics at the match in your own mindset in a way to dismiss a simple equality support/anti racism gesture because enough is enough with this darn equality, let’s limit and restrict it, please…supporting a gesture is not supporting a movement and any and all politics attached or unattached to it…the players understand this and the federation understands this and apparently the government understand this as well as they’ve nodded their support of the gesture today and I would hope that most of the fans support it….so you can repeat to me, Arista…but it won’t change that taking the knee is not political….it’s an equality gesture and those who boo it are booing what it stands for…they’re booing equality and anti racism….

Swan · 11-06-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

No offence, but English football fans have shown over the years that they might be in dire need of a lecture or two on equality and racial sensitivity

Honestly the majority of fans aren't racist at all, and couldn't care less if the players take a knee (we included). We just wanna support our team and hope they do well.

arista · 11-06-2021, 02:33 PM

No they are Booo ing the USA BLM Politics

arista · 11-06-2021, 04:41 PM

Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

bots · 11-06-2021, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

they are going to kneel at wembley

Cherie · 11-06-2021, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Scottish Teams have said they will Stand.

Thats better

yes

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...ches-1.4589735

they will take the knee when they play the England game in solidarity

I think taking the knee is too mixed up with other issues, and it comes from America. they should come up with their own gesture which might have more impact tbh