[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not these days - Frankie is woke.

He's a bliddy hypocrite more like . I will never forget his nasty humour. So he can stop trying to take the moral high ground.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

iirc, on one of her podcasts Jada has said that Chris Rock has been a problem within the Smith family for a long time, so there’s already personal beef embedded in the situation and I’m sorry, but there is a very big difference between making fun of people for the things they do and say and their illnesses that they have no control over, should Will have slapped him? Obviously not, it was ridiculously over the top, however, I don’t buy into the he shouldn’t have been offended narrative, when a joke is aimed at a specific person for a specific uncontrollable situation, people have the right to be offended if it offends them, since when is people having feelings a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be heartless robots these days or?

It's opinion's like yours that makes it look like it may have been a set-up with the motive of pushing on with the cancel culture agenda, by trying to turn this act of violence on to being the victims fault, in this
case the comedians fault.

Cancel comedians. We don't want people like Ricky Gervais roasting us privliged people.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's opinion's like yours that makes it look like it may have been a set-up with the motive of pushing on with the cancel culture agenda, by trying to turn this act of violence on to being the victims fault, in this
case the comedians fault.

Cancel comedians. We don't want people like Ricky Gervais roasting us privliged people.

I thought you might enjoy this video Alf

Youtube video

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I thought you might enjoy this video Alf

Youtube video

Thank you, I'll have a look.

[Vanessa]

I have wondered if it was staged to get the Oscars in the headlines. And if it was, it looks like it worked

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

iirc, on one of her podcasts Jada has said that Chris Rock has been a problem within the Smith family for a long time, so there’s already personal beef embedded in the situation and I’m sorry, but there is a very big difference between making fun of people for the things they do and say and their illnesses that they have no control over, should Will have slapped him? Obviously not, it was ridiculously over the top, however, I don’t buy into the he shouldn’t have been offended narrative, when a joke is aimed at a specific person for a specific uncontrollable situation, people have the right to be offended if it offends them, since when is people having feelings a bad thing? Is everyone supposed to be heartless robots these days or?

Of course not but any moral high ground Will had, he utterly destroyed with what he did. As Someone else said earlier, if Will hadn't done anything in that moment but mentioned it in his acceptance speech about commenting on his wife's appearance due to her medical condition, I think he would have "won" and Chris would look like the bad guy

[Alf]

Ricky Gervais was worshiped for his roasting of Hollywood people, he was saying things like they hang out with paedos and all sorts.

So Chris Rock has one question for you trying to say he did wrong here.

Youtube video

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

Ricky Gervais was worshiped for his roasting of Hollywood people, he was saying things like they hang out with paedos and all sorts.

So Chris Rock has one question for you trying to say he did wrong here.

Youtube video

Actually I think you'll find American comedians regardless of race & even gender get away with alot on their own turf .

When British comedians go across the pond ie Ricky Gervais ,James Corden etc ,then there's resentment at the jokes. And it's always called 'controversial' and they get a bit of a dressing down.

But whoever the comedian is ,if a joke is seen as offensive especially nowadays then it will make headlines.

But Chris Rock & Will Smith are only making headlines because of the slap , otherwise that GI Jane silly joke probably would have just gone by like nothing.

[Beso]

Would have been funnier if it was a white actor hitting him...the world would have melted.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Would have been funnier if it was a white actor hitting him...the world would have melted.

Why do you feel the need to bring race into it

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why do you feel the need to bring race into it

I've just watched a video where someone mentions it..


It would be a completely different story had it been though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Would have been funnier if it was a white actor hitting him...the world would have melted.

especially if he had used the back of his hand

[Livia]

Will Smith was right.

A man mocked his wife's medical condition and her appearance, in front of millions of people. He's lucky he got a slap and not a punch. And I think Will was going for a punch until he pulled himself back at the last minute. I'm sure all the people backing Rock would politely stand back and smile if someone ripped the piss out of their partner's medical condition.

The fact that the academy asked Will to leave and is now considering banning him is ****ing lunacy. Expecting a man not to react in a situation like this is laughable.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Livia

Will Smith was right.

A man mocked his wife's medical condition and her appearance, in front of millions of people. He's lucky he got a slap and not a punch. And I think Will was going for a punch until he pulled himself back at the last minute. I'm sure all the people backing Rock would politely stand back and smile if someone ripped the piss out of their partner's medical condition.

The fact that the academy asked Will to leave and is now considering banning him is ****ing lunacy. Expecting a man not to react in a situation like this is laughable.

So you believe Donald Trump should go around slapping people in the face everytime someone mocks his wife? And she has been called all sorts many times. Don't remember you ever egging him on to go and assault people for it.

I think it's time for some alopecia jokes on here today. Sadly Jada won't see them, well that's hair loss.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Alf

So you believe Donald Trump should go around slapping people in the face everytime someone mocks his wife? And she has been called all sorts many times. Don't remember you ever egging him on to go and assault people for it.

I think it's time for some alopecia jokes on here today. Sadly Jada won't see them, well that's hair loss.

Wow... Super-surprised at you, Alfie.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow... Super-surprised at you, Alfie.

Most people's hair falls out. Prince William is bald as badger. I'll make baldy jokes about his egg head as well.

[Niamh.]

I don't even think Chris Rock knew about her medical condition though tbf. Should he have researched why she shaved her head? Maybe but that still doesn't give anyone the right to hit him and I'm surprised anyone thinks violence is an appropriate reaction to words. What kind of a lawless messed up society would we be in if you could just go around hitting anyone who said something we didn't like?

[Niamh.]

Youtube video

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Youtube video

He's stand up shows have sold out now.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's stand up shows have sold out now.

Yeah the ticket prices sky rocketed apparently

[Josy]

None of them.

The joke was cruel but it was still a joke and that's exactly what Chris Rock gets paid to do.

Assault is never OK. Will could have defended his wife perfectly well without lifting a hand.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

None of them.

The joke was cruel but it was still a joke and that's exactly what Chris Rock gets paid to do.

Assault is never OK. Will could have defended his wife perfectly well without lifting a hand.

It was only cruel if it was known about her condition, as far as we know Rock didn't know.
That hairstyle is quite fashionable at the moment so it couldn't really be assumed it was necessary.

Award shows are well known thanks to Gervais for upsetting and offensive comments by hosts.
As you said Smith could've found another way to support his wife.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was only cruel if it was known about her condition, as far as we know Rock didn't know.
That hairstyle is quite fashionable at the moment so it couldn't really be assumed it was necessary.

Award shows are well known thanks to Gervais for upsetting and offensive comments by hosts.
As you said Smith could've found another way to support his wife.

Apparently EVERYONE in showbiz or who even casually follows showbiz news would know about her Alopecia . She’s apparently been very public about it to raise the general awareness since 2018


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apparently EVERYONE in showbiz or who even casually follows showbiz news would know about her Alopecia . She’s apparently been very public about it to raise the general awareness since 2018


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You can't say EVERYONE on Showbiz knew, obviously not everyone knew

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't say EVERYONE on Showbiz knew, obviously not everyone knew

It’s a ‘saying’ .. it seems ridiculous that such a high profile comedian who makes a living out of jokes about people and their situations didn’t know about her well documented condition.

Chris Rock and the Smith family have ‘history’ as well which makes it even more likely that he knew but made a bad error of judgment.


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It later emerged that there was more to the story, as Chris had previously also cracked a joke about Jada at the Oscars. The comedian, who was hosting the Oscars in 2016, had roasted Jada's efforts to boycott the award ceremony. She had made a video announcing she was boycotting the 2016 Oscars as 'no persons of colour were nominated' in any of the major acting categories, which included her husband Will.


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