[Redway]

I don’t know how far we’re going to get with this conversation considering the blatant transphobia that flutters not-so-very-subtly on this forum, but let’s try. Anyone and everyone is welcome to chip in but the question per-se is for women (and let’s park the annoyance at using ‘cis.’ as a descriptor right here; I’m not having that conversation). And the question is this: should trans.-women be allowed to use conventional women’s toilets? (Yes, we really are in the periodic text-boldening era. At least occasionally.)

Anyone who doesn’t have a vagina can go and sit down as far as the poll is concerned.

[Mystic Mock]

I won't vote on the poll as I'm not a woman.

But my feelings on it are that last year we had our highest ever recorded statistics on women being sexually assaulted, so imo if the Transwoman still has a penis, then it's taking an unnecessary risk is how I view it.

Having said that though, I'm not a woman, so they should have their say on this topic more than myself.

[DemRed]

If its a chick with a dick... NO
If its a chick who no longer has a dick... YES

[smudgie]

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No penis allowed in ladies toilets.

[GoldHeart]

The Problem is predators are taking advantage of this whole thing, but if you haven't even attempted to look like a woman & you still have male parts ,then you shouldn't be using women's bathrooms. There should be respect 2 ways.

But men are walking into women's spaces as bold as anything , they're not even attempting to look 'female'. In America it looks like both men & women are walking in each others lockerooms like it's the norm, a man was
caught shaving in a women's space & a woman was
caught filming men in a men's lockeroom.

So it's all a joke & a big fat mess, privacy is important and nowadays it seems more & more people are overstepping boundaries and making women & children feel uncomfortable for the sake of it .

I know this poll is mainly about public bathrooms,but I'm glad I don't use gyms anymore.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The Problem is predators are taking advantage of this whole thing, but if you haven't even attempted to look like a woman & you still have male parts ,then you shouldn't be using women's bathrooms. There should be respect 2 ways.

But men are walking into women's spaces as bold as anything , they're not even attempting to look 'female'. In America it looks like both men & women are walking in each others lockerooms like it's the norm, a man was
caught shaving in a women's space & a woman was
caught filming men in a men's lockeroom.

So it's all a joke & a big fat mess, privacy is important and nowadays it seems more & more people are overstepping boundaries and making women & children feel uncomfortable for the sake of it .

I know this poll is mainly about public bathrooms,but I'm glad I don't use gyms anymore.

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

In 2024 men are still biologically physically stronger than women and more of a risk to women and children especially in places where they are more vulnerable like bathrooms and changing rooms where they might be in a state of undress. It's pretty relevant to the point Goldheart was making

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In 2024 men are still biologically physically stronger than women and more of a risk to women and children especially in places where they are more vulnerable like bathrooms and changing rooms where they might be in a state of undress. It's pretty relevant to the point Goldheart was making

Thanks Niamh , I'm glad somebody understands what I meant.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

WT actual F


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

WT actual F


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its bizarre

[bots]

Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

is women and children not the norm. Or should everything be described in terms of exceptions?

Women do still give birth to children

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

Tbf, why can't people say women and children?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, why can't people say women and children?

I don’t know. I just feel like in many ways it infantilises grown-arse women. Women have more pelvic strength than men in any case (otherwise men would be able to give birth) so it’s not a fact that women are generally weaker than men in every physical domain. Not to deny that dangerous men can pose obvious dangers to women but “women and children” in many ways harks back to a sexist time.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by DemRed

If its a chick with a dick... NO
If its a chick who no longer has a dick... YES

Originally Posted by smudgie

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No penis allowed in ladies toilets.

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Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

what do you suggest we call women and children Redway?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by cherie

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What do you suggest we call women and children redway?

we're all waiting to find out

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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what do you suggest we call women and children Redway?

All I’m saying is we need to do less of this lumping women and children together business.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The Problem is predators are taking advantage of this whole thing, but if you haven't even attempted to look like a woman & you still have male parts ,then you shouldn't be using women's bathrooms. There should be respect 2 ways.

But men are walking into women's spaces as bold as anything , they're not even attempting to look 'female'. In America it looks like both men & women are walking in each others lockerooms like it's the norm, a man was
caught shaving in a women's space & a woman was
caught filming men in a men's lockeroom.

So it's all a joke & a big fat mess, privacy is important and nowadays it seems more & more people are overstepping boundaries and making women & children feel uncomfortable for the sake of it .

I know this poll is mainly about public bathrooms,but I'm glad I don't use gyms anymore.

Did she get arrested for it?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Did she get arrested for it?

Doubt it ,but the guy who filmed it must have reported her to planet fitness ,but it seems all sorts of crazy stuff is happening there . So who knows if they even listen to complaints.

It was shared online as that's what people do now to show evidence & proof I guess as a warning to people , I think Joey Swoll reacted to . Check him out he's really good . He calls out disgusting bad behaviour that usually happens in gyms , changing rooms etc etc .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Doubt it ,but the guy who filmed it must have reported her to planet fitness ,but it seems all sorts of crazy stuff is happening there . So who knows if they even listen to complaints.

It was shared online as that's what people do now to show evidence & proof I guess as a warning to people , I think Joey Swoll reacted to . Check him out he's really good . He calls out disgusting bad behaviour that usually happens in gyms , changing rooms etc etc .

I'll checkout Joey Swoll's video out later, thanks for the recommendation.

I honestly don't get how people get so degenerate that they're stalking people in the bathroom.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Anyone who doesn’t have a vagina can go and sit down as far as the poll is concerned."

Anyone who doesn’t have a vagina should not be making the poll...

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Anyone who doesn’t have a vagina can go and sit down as far as the poll is concerned."

Anyone who doesn’t have a vagina should not be making the poll...

Sit down, guy.

[Redway]

Whatever Zizu’s saying (I have him on ignore so I can’t see), he’s a man. So y’know.

[UserSince2005]

I'm feeling 100% woman today so yes I will use which ever toilet I want and yes I will leave the seat up.

[Redway]

Many people won’t want to vote option-2 because it sounds harsh but that’s exactly how it is and the reasoning behind it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Many people won’t want to vote option-2 because it sounds harsh but that’s exactly how it is and the reasoning behind it.

You might get more people voting in your polls if you just had the answers as options and let people explain their own reasoning behind their answer. We do all have our own thoughts and minds.