[Liam-]

Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him

I hope that you're right.

Someone like Vance should not be the VP.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Vance really doesn’t help Trump appeal to more than has rabid base, if he had gone for someone that isn’t quite so ‘maga’ he could have made a bit of progress with the independents who don’t like how extreme he is, Vance is not going to do that for him

The reason trump went for Vance is because he thinks he has the election won already, without needing to appeal to non maga types. The way things are shaping up, he is probably right. The dems are on a downward spiral

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Liam-]

Trump and Farage are not likeable, that’s a complete myth, their only appeal is that they prey on peoples weakness and hate minorities to speak to the bigots that most politicians rightfully ignore

[MTVN]

Vance is a practicing Catholic hence his stance on abortion. I think it's a bit more nuanced than is being presented though; you can oppose abortion in principle and still not support a blanket ban across the country. I believe he thinks those decisions should be made at state level

[Liam-]

No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country

Mr. Vance opposes abortion rights, even in the case of incest or rape, but says there should be exceptions for cases when the mother’s life is in danger. He praised the U.S. Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade. As he ran for Senate in 2022, a headline on the issues section of his campaign website read simply: “Ban Abortion.”

That said, Mr. Vance, like Mr. Trump, opposes a national abortion ban, saying the issue should now be left to the states. “Ohio is going to want to have a different abortion policy from California, from New York, and I think that’s reasonable,” he said in an interview with USA Today Network in October 2022.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/u...on-issues.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

Biden "I have not engaged in such rhetoric"

Also Biden

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No he has said he supports a national ban on abortion, he’s an adult covert Christian and wants to push his ‘beliefs’ on the country

There is nothing wrong in that, and he cant just click his fingers for it to happen. Many have tried in the past, and failed. He wont be any different, but If that's his belief, then he should be free to have it.

[Liam-]

Project 2025 that wants to ban abortion nationally, both Trump and Vance have worked with, Vance specifically thanking them for all the hard work they put into ‘our’ policies.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Twitter Link

Project 2025 that wants to ban abortion nationally, both Trump and Vance have worked with, Vance specifically thanking them for all the hard work they put into ‘our’ policies.

One wonders why he didn't show the text?

[Zizu]

Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?

Surely that looks weak ??


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?

Surely that looks weak ??

Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.

By enlisting a known detractor ?


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[user104658]

Originally Posted by Zizu

By enlisting a known detractor ?

Literally anyone straight-laced, by necessity, will have been a Trump detractor, as he is the opposite. Seems this one's sold his soul .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Literally anyone straight-laced, by necessity, will have been a Trump detractor, as he is the opposite. Seems this one's sold his soul .

Didn't Kamala Harris do the same when she became Bidens VP, she had previously called him racist iirc?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Because the weirdo hootin' redneck Trumpists are not enough to get him over the line, he needs to entice some of the straighter-laced hard republicans.

By picking someone that thinks that it's okay for women to stay in relationships where they're being abused?

Surely even a lot of Republicans have got to be questioning this decision.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?

Surely that looks weak ??

There is no point having a mind of young cant change it when you get more information

Donald is above petty vendettas and leaves that to whackjob Biden

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Whats the thinking of Trump picking a guy who has viciously slagged him off for years ?

Surely that looks weak ??


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It is better he picked someone whose stripes and colors he has seen and is willing to argue. I don't like the people he surrounds himself with normally (pillow guy), but if this guy is legit and is strongwilled, but logical as they say, then down the line it is healthy for his Presidency to have that relationship between the two. Trump is not young. There is a good chance he dies in office and a VP will have to replace. If both can set an example for the party that disagreement is healthy, then maybe we get less sh*t tier candidates in the future. We need more young people to replace these establishment figures...

[Crimson Dynamo]

The DEI hire Secret Service Director should RESIGN after Saturday’s
catastrophic failure.

Secretary Mayorkas is responsible as well. I already tried to fire him after the
House passed my Articles of Impeachment.

We expect the Secret Service Director to appear in front of the Oversight
Committee on Monday.

https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1813227322650005514

[Liam-]

A bad choice of words in the context of a discussion of how to get the attention back onto Trump reprehensible character and terrible record, is not the same as Trump calling for bloodshed if he loses the election again

[Beso]

Just asking questions, no need to be defensive and silly name calling isnt needed either.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just asking questions, no need to be defensive as soon as I mention irelands mess.

Ok