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Old 16-09-2014, 09:12 AM #751
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Scotland should be like the EU, and just hold a referendum every year until they get the YES result they want.

Isn't that what the EU did to many countries on the Lisbon treaty? especially Ireland. and speaking of Ireland, they should do the same, hold a referendum for joining the rest of the island every year.
lmao, it's funny you say that, they were only talking about that on the radio this morning. Complete joke that was
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After the no to devo in 79 10 years later we got it

Even if we get a no on Thurs its just a stepping stone to Independence which will happen.
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That's not a given, we don't have a crystal ball and what ifs are not a good enough basis to cut away from the union.
The Labour / Tory flip-flop of governments *is* a given... I literally see no way for it to change?
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The Labour / Tory flip-flop of governments *is* a given... I literally see no way for it to change?
So logically how does independence from these ensure a better Scotand? It doesn't.
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Dork Labour Leader Ed Miliband
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Due to Larger Amount of Yes voters

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Utter Bliss
I don't agree with either side shouting down the other,that will only go against the side doing so.

I also give full credit to Miliband and indeed Jim Murphy too that despite that they have tried to talk in public and do a walkabout.
That is a lot more than can be said for the PM and his cabinet colleagues,exclding Clegg of course who also tried to do the walkabouts.
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yes fella
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bless you titch
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She has adrenal fatigue ( dark circles around the eye) and a dry scaly yeasty patch around her nostril, I suggest pre and probiotics, no alcohol and some essential fatty acids in her diet..... And a no vote.

Maybe a few highlights...
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Scotland will not be free. I promise you. with al the bravado and the huffing and puffing, it won't happen.

Even if it could happen, you wouldn't know it. It wouldn't be allowed.
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Alex it'll be a YES! Well I've been confident if that up until tonight.. I've got to admit I'm nervous and aprehensive tonight. I feel physically sick
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keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More
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I've been describing myself as a "yessimist" (a yes pessimist... Haw haw...). I don't believe in democracy. It's just another illusion of freedom designed to maintain control, and the world's most powerful oligarchs at home and abroad have far too much at stake here for a Yes vote to be allowed.

Either the tactics of fear will have already worked or someone will be desperately scrambling to move the goal posts (which incidentally will also happen in the event of a No vote. "Extra power" will be trivial or non-existent). Might sound like conspiracy theory but... It's just the world we live in. The real one. The one where the UK is ruled by a few dozen boys who all went to the same schools, and where the US is controlled by a handful of dynasties. Real change can't and won't ever happen, it's too late even for revolution unless you think that blowing spit balls at metal-clad drones armed with tonnes of explosives is particularly effective. The world is what it is until it crumbles, and we're already on the way there.

But we could at ****ing least have the balls to try?

Merry Yesmass...
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I really hope it is a decisive result either way. A really massive day in the history of Scotland.
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keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More
I've seen enough to suggest the ties have gone. I'm kinda done with my Scottish side now. I hope they vote yes and do what they want and I wish them all the best but my allegiance is 100% to England now.

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[Andy Murray says 'Yes' to Scottish independence]


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I really hope it is a decisive result either way. A really massive day in the history of Scotland.
That's the saddest part really; it won't be. You're talking a 6 point swing at most IMO, so 47% to 53% (or less, my guess would actually be 52% No).

So whichever way it swings, more or less half of the population are going to wake up to a shock (or in my case, expected disappointment) tomorrow. No one can conclusively say whether Scotland "wants independence" or not even after the result. Not with it being a 50/50 split.
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Just walked down to the bottom of the drive to vote as the polling station hut is at start of village, me and the dog did our bit, then we went a long walk in the Easterly gloom and she nearly caught a few Pheasants.
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Murray confirming he is a massive tit

Pretty surprising move from him as well considering the unlikelihood of a Yes vote
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keep your friends close and your enemies closer. lets face it the scots dont like us and we dont like them (well most of us dont, I think theyre great) but theyd get more out of us and wed get ,ore out of them together....disunited there will be no collaboration, no strength in numbers, no massive fallback treasury, no ties that bind. it makes us all weaker....TEAM = Together Everyone Achieves More
That's a horrible thing to say and totally untrue! We have a little chuckle at each others idiosyncrasies (square sausages?) But of course we like the Scottish.
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Pretty surprising move from him as well considering the unlikelihood of a Yes vote
A massive tit because he agrees his country should be independent??

And a YES vote is likely
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Were you allowed to vote in pen?..
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A massive tit because he agrees his country should be independent??

And a YES vote is likely
Makes a mockery of all his protests that he's 'British and Scottish' which was always obviously something he was just told to say anyway, and that he was always proud to be representing GB, that he didn't like Salmond waving the Scottish flag at Wimbledon, and how he also hinted he was supporting a No vote earlier in the year when it looked like No would easily win. At least he doesn't have a vote anyway considering he lives and trains in England. If Murray had his way then Wimbledon won't be his home crowd any more so he can't complain if he gets nowhere near the same support there
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